Quelle surprise.Wes wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 12:59 pmBack in the day, this wouldn't have even been a thing, the only reason it is is because the question to the ref on the pitch during play was picked up on the ref mic. As far as I can tell, nobody is blowing it up in the press other than the press!Cape Tiger wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 10:48 am It was a tongue in cheek comment. England lost a game they deserved to win. Blowing up these sort of issues in the press is unfortunate for both sides. I suspect that back in the day if there had been a problem between the players it would have been sorted out on the field rather than in the media.
What is totally wrong is the hatred directed towards curry on social media. Mostly from SA fans directly to Curry via his Instagram account.
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Happy enough with the team, I am not overly concerned about the result but it would be nice to send off Youngs, Cole and Care off with a win. Maybe a surprise Lawes isn't in there for at least a cameo bench spot.TigerFeetSteve wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 12:52 pm England vs Argentina
15. Marcus Smith (Harlequins, 29 caps)
14. Freddie Steward (Leicester Tigers, 30 caps)
13. Joe Marchant (Stade Francais, 25 caps)
12. Manu Tuilagi (Sale Sharks, 58 caps)
11. Henry Arundell (Racing 92, 9 caps)
10. Owen Farrell – captain (Saracens, 111 caps)
9. Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers, 126 caps)
1. Ellis Genge – vice-captain (Bristol Bears, 57 caps)
2. Theo Dan (Saracens, 6 caps)
3. Will Stuart (Bath Rugby, 32 caps)
4. Maro Itoje (Saracens, 75 caps)
5. Ollie Chessum (Leicester Tigers, 17 caps)
6. Tom Curry (Sale Sharks, 49 caps)
7. Sam Underhill (Bath Rugby, 29 caps)
8. Ben Earl (Saracens, 24 caps)
16. Jamie George (Saracens, 84 caps)
17. Bevan Rodd (Sale Sharks, 4 caps)
18. Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers, 106 caps)
19. David Ribbans (Toulon, 9 caps)
20. Lewis Ludlam (Northampton Saints, 24 caps)
21. Danny Care (Harlequins, 95 caps)
22. George Ford – vice-captain (Sale Sharks, 90 caps)
23. Ollie Lawrence (Bath Rugby, 20 caps)
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According to the Times, World Rugby will duck the Curry issue by not ruling on it until after the final. Weak.
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Not sure why you would play Smith, he supposedly wasn't available last weekend due to HIA protocol, why not give him an extra week off, rather than play in their pointless match.
To win is not as important as playing with style!
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I try to live in a social media free bubble, so was unaware of any hatred directed towards Curry. I agree totally unacceptable.Wes wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 12:59 pmBack in the day, this wouldn't have even been a thing, the only reason it is is because the question to the ref on the pitch during play was picked up on the ref mic. As far as I can tell, nobody is blowing it up in the press other than the press!Cape Tiger wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 10:48 am It was a tongue in cheek comment. England lost a game they deserved to win. Blowing up these sort of issues in the press is unfortunate for both sides. I suspect that back in the day if there had been a problem between the players it would have been sorted out on the field rather than in the media.
What is totally wrong is the hatred directed towards curry on social media. Mostly from SA fans directly to Curry via his Instagram account.
The commentaries I have seen on mainstream sites have mainly revolve around what was actually said, and the audios I have heard are inconclusive to me.
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I wonder if that will lead to him leaving here, nothing stopping him cashing in in France or Japan now?
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Doubt it, would not be surprised to see full retirement at the end of the season or not long after.Jimmy Skitz wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 3:28 pm I wonder if that will lead to him leaving here, nothing stopping him cashing in in France or Japan now?
Would not be averse to seeing him look at a coaching roll at the club, no better person to teach the academy about what it means to be a Tiger.
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Just won’t happen his family mean too much to him. The retirement plan will be in placeJimmy Skitz wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 3:28 pm I wonder if that will lead to him leaving here, nothing stopping him cashing in in France or Japan now?
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Surprised at the team. Borthwick can’t rate Walker won’t even put him on the bench. Thought he would rest Steward, Farrell Itoje and Earl. He sees Smith as an FB now obviously
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Smith at 15 and Steward on the wing may well be what he wants to do going forward so why not start now
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From what I've read in the past, I don't Tom is letting him work on the farm!!Rugbygramps wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 3:42 pmJust won’t happen his family mean too much to him. The retirement plan will be in placeJimmy Skitz wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 3:28 pm I wonder if that will lead to him leaving here, nothing stopping him cashing in in France or Japan now?
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Is he going down the EJ route of square pegs in round holes? Steward can play wing but his super power is diffusing bombs. I’m no expert but surely the opposition will just kick to the other wing.Jimmy Skitz wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 3:56 pm Smith at 15 and Steward on the wing may well be what he wants to do going forward so why not start now
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Not convinced it’s more about playing his skipper @ 10
Smith will get seriously found out at 15
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Quite right the farm is very much in Tom and Nicks hands.ads wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 4:04 pmFrom what I've read in the past, I don't Tom is letting him work on the farm!!Rugbygramps wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 3:42 pmJust won’t happen his family mean too much to him. The retirement plan will be in placeJimmy Skitz wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 3:28 pm I wonder if that will lead to him leaving here, nothing stopping him cashing in in France or Japan now?
He may prove me wrong but I think this will be his last season.
I’m sure I read about a holiday cottage company h was associated with, he won’t be short of offers on the after dinner circuit and he is the sort of ex player, like Stuart Hogg, that TNT should be looking to update their summariser base with