I am guessing that is when the preparations formally start for next season. I am sure that there will be involvement before then but the current coaches will be in charge until the end of this season (end of May?) then those not involved in any international commitments (not sure what there is this summer with the World Cup) will be on holiday for a month and everyone comes back and start afresh after that.trendylfj wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 10:03 am Forgive me for asking what may be a stupid question but why is it taking so long for him to take up the role? Earlier someone said "1st July"???? I know he will have a family to move, other coaches to talk to, etc but we are over 5 months away from July 1st and I would hope to see some contact with the players we have ahead of that time. Players to retain/let go/sign will make his job easier if he has some involvement in what is happening before July 1st. I am aware that most of the new signings have been done for next year according to Andrea but I hope he will have some input there. New thing - IMWT - welcome to the family
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He might not be free to take up the post as part of his release from Australia until then?
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Sorry to be pedantic but It’s just over 4 months to 1st July and as said by GB72 for one month , June, players will be on tour/holidays.trendylfj wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 10:03 am Forgive me for asking what may be a stupid question but why is it taking so long for him to take up the role? Earlier someone said "1st July"???? I know he will have a family to move, other coaches to talk to, etc but we are over 5 months away from July 1st and I would hope to see some contact with the players we have ahead of that time. Players to retain/let go/sign will make his job easier if he has some involvement in what is happening before July 1st. I am aware that most of the new signings have been done for next year according to Andrea but I hope he will have some input there. New thing - IMWT - welcome to the family
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Salary cap starts from 1st July
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Coaches don't count in the cap.
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I think him starting 1st July makes perfect sense to me.
His focus now shouldn't be on the day to day with Tigers. He needs to join the planning of what the team around him is.
Also I think it's key how he talks about moving his family here. When coaches (or players) come first alone it suggests temporary status. However moving a family properly takes time. Get over here buy a house, get schools etc sorted. All while trying to do a full time coaching job. No thanks.
Definitely spend time with the players, with the staff, be a resource that the current coaching team can lean on to support and advise. However his planning needs to be his team and next season, let Wigglesworth et al focus on this season.
His focus now shouldn't be on the day to day with Tigers. He needs to join the planning of what the team around him is.
Also I think it's key how he talks about moving his family here. When coaches (or players) come first alone it suggests temporary status. However moving a family properly takes time. Get over here buy a house, get schools etc sorted. All while trying to do a full time coaching job. No thanks.
Definitely spend time with the players, with the staff, be a resource that the current coaching team can lean on to support and advise. However his planning needs to be his team and next season, let Wigglesworth et al focus on this season.
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Re: Dan McKellar to join Leicester Tigers as Head Coach
Sydney Herald:
"McKellar and Borthwick have a relationship and the forward-oriented style of the ex-Brumbies coach is seen as a good fit for Leicester, one of the historically dominant clubs in England."
As long as the backs get to see the ball?
Interesting times, I wonder how long he will stay given that he has already indicated that his plan is to return to Aus and the Wallabies.
"McKellar and Borthwick have a relationship and the forward-oriented style of the ex-Brumbies coach is seen as a good fit for Leicester, one of the historically dominant clubs in England."
As long as the backs get to see the ball?
Interesting times, I wonder how long he will stay given that he has already indicated that his plan is to return to Aus and the Wallabies.
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Welcome news, the Brumbies performed under him with a team based around a good set of forwards, sounds a very good fit.
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Re: Dan McKellar to join Leicester Tigers as Head Coach
Another stepping stone then? What if Jones bombs at the RWC?!TigerCam wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 10:27 am Sydney Herald:
"McKellar and Borthwick have a relationship and the forward-oriented style of the ex-Brumbies coach is seen as a good fit for Leicester, one of the historically dominant clubs in England."
As long as the backs get to see the ball?
Interesting times, I wonder how long he will stay given that he has already indicated that his plan is to return to Aus and the Wallabies.
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He's signed a long term contract so the ARU would have to pay us a good old chunk of compensation to get him back.Scott1 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 10:28 amAnother stepping stone then? What if Jones bombs at the RWC?!TigerCam wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 10:27 am Sydney Herald:
"McKellar and Borthwick have a relationship and the forward-oriented style of the ex-Brumbies coach is seen as a good fit for Leicester, one of the historically dominant clubs in England."
As long as the backs get to see the ball?
Interesting times, I wonder how long he will stay given that he has already indicated that his plan is to return to Aus and the Wallabies.
I'd rather have a top coach who national teams are interested in than one who stays forever because he's the step or two below top level.
Re: Dan McKellar to join Leicester Tigers as Head Coach
Try to be positive Scott. More likely to jump ship if we had Cotter, Cheika or the Scots coachScott1 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 10:28 amAnother stepping stone then? What if Jones bombs at the RWC?!TigerCam wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 10:27 am Sydney Herald:
"McKellar and Borthwick have a relationship and the forward-oriented style of the ex-Brumbies coach is seen as a good fit for Leicester, one of the historically dominant clubs in England."
As long as the backs get to see the ball?
Interesting times, I wonder how long he will stay given that he has already indicated that his plan is to return to Aus and the Wallabies.
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Re: Dan McKellar to join Leicester Tigers as Head Coach
It sounds to me that the Club have conducted a rigorous and thoughtful process to appoint DM, even to the point of meeting his family; that to me is impressive and shows the Club wanted to make sure this appointment will work for everyone. Like many I knew little about him before today, but what I have read this morning from various sources gives me plenty of encouragement. I am sure the same thoughtful process will be applied to the other coaching appointments that need to be made, including who is retained from the current group. For example, as has been said by other posters, the defence has improved recently so for me Everard is a keeper.
As for timings, 1 July seems pragmatic but with plenty of opportunity for early integration activity.
As for timings, 1 July seems pragmatic but with plenty of opportunity for early integration activity.
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Re: Dan McKellar to join Leicester Tigers as Head Coach
Come on Andrea, just announce Giteau as incoming backs guru and be done with it…
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I think it makes sense for him to come then. We have our current coaching team and this will change end of the season.Greenwhiteandred wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 10:13 amSorry to be pedantic but It’s just over 4 months to 1st July and as said by GB72 for one month , June, players will be on tour/holidays.trendylfj wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 10:03 am Forgive me for asking what may be a stupid question but why is it taking so long for him to take up the role? Earlier someone said "1st July"???? I know he will have a family to move, other coaches to talk to, etc but we are over 5 months away from July 1st and I would hope to see some contact with the players we have ahead of that time. Players to retain/let go/sign will make his job easier if he has some involvement in what is happening before July 1st. I am aware that most of the new signings have been done for next year according to Andrea but I hope he will have some input there. New thing - IMWT - welcome to the family
We’ve already employed someone to cover the forwards until then. He’s signed the contract yes but think about the planning of getting him and his family over and starting now- it would be chaos. Much more sensible doing it at the end of the season.
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Let's hope Oz wins it then hahaScott1 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 10:28 amAnother stepping stone then? What if Jones bombs at the RWC?!TigerCam wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 10:27 am Sydney Herald:
"McKellar and Borthwick have a relationship and the forward-oriented style of the ex-Brumbies coach is seen as a good fit for Leicester, one of the historically dominant clubs in England."
As long as the backs get to see the ball?
Interesting times, I wonder how long he will stay given that he has already indicated that his plan is to return to Aus and the Wallabies.