But lost games by only a few points, so not whipping boys.kpj tiger wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 4:31 pmNo mugs but bottom of the league with 1 win up till today, we really need to put this game awaywestwinds31 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 4:30 pm Irish no mugs mind….very good up front and superb backs. Tough game for anyone home or away.
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How did Martin do at lock?
Re: Tigers v London Irish (H] - Sunday 27th November 2022 KO 3pm
The fact we have a negative point differential is quite telling.Scott1 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 7:23 pm52 trys conceded last season(24 games),30 already(8 games)! (If that's correct) almost double the average conceded!DeadlyDunc wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 7:18 pm I’m fairly sanguine about things but k will say that we basically won the title on the back of an unbelievable defence which we simply haven’t had anything like the same this season.
There are mitigations with injuries, international call ups and the stop start nature this season etc but if we don’t sort the defence out we’ll be missing out on top 4.
And I bet you that if we sort out the defence we’ll start to look better in attack as things will gel and new partnerships and players will find their feet on both sides of the ball.
Unfortunately, it’s an if at the moment as we are losing points cheaply time and time again each week
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not really. We have won 4 and lost 4 so you would expect it to be close. Only 2 home games b4 today.wigworth wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 7:32 pmThe fact we have a negative point differential is quite telling.Scott1 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 7:23 pm52 trys conceded last season(24 games),30 already(8 games)! (If that's correct) almost double the average conceded!DeadlyDunc wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 7:18 pm I’m fairly sanguine about things but k will say that we basically won the title on the back of an unbelievable defence which we simply haven’t had anything like the same this season.
There are mitigations with injuries, international call ups and the stop start nature this season etc but if we don’t sort the defence out we’ll be missing out on top 4.
And I bet you that if we sort out the defence we’ll start to look better in attack as things will gel and new partnerships and players will find their feet on both sides of the ball.
Unfortunately, it’s an if at the moment as we are losing points cheaply time and time again each week
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I’m not overly concerned at the moment. There’s been a load of disruption, we haven’t fired on more than one cylinder yet but we’re in a reasonable position in the table. Get Kelly back and Pollard - we’ll be in better shape for the 6 Nations period.
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Chiefs have managed a positive differential despite winning 4 and losing 5. It is just concerning that what today should have been a comfortable 10+ point win got turned into a close run affair mostly because we seemed out to sea defensively after 30 mins, which has happened several times this season already and hasn't seemingly been fixed yet.
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we didn't we brought Porter on and moved Potter wide, Ashton was also poor so we put Atkinson the 15 and Watson to the wing, we can't replace everyonesapajo wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 6:01 pm Bringing on Atkinson to replace Nandolo on the wing when Burns was having a mare ball in hand sums up todays game for me. Ashton was poor he missed 2 tackles in a row on OHC that resulted in 2 tries for Irish and then ran like a headless chicken straight into Irish forwards and gave up a penalty for holding on as he ran away from support. If Jackson had not missed those 2 conversions we would have been toast giving up such a massive lead so easily was shockingly poor. We scraped the win by holding onto our minute lead which we failed to do against Bath and Exeter and came away with 5 points thats the big positive.
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Whatever way you dress it up,going from conceding 2.16 trys a game to 3.75 is a huge worry, it's almost conceding a TBP every game! I understand the Sarries loss skews it a bit but no one can sit there with a straight face and say that the defence isn't a huge problem this season compared to last. It's night and day
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Re: Tigers v London Irish (H] - Sunday 27th November 2022 KO 3pm
Completely agree!wigworth wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 7:50 pmChiefs have managed a positive differential despite winning 4 and losing 5. It is just concerning that what today should have been a comfortable 10+ point win got turned into a close run affair mostly because we seemed out to sea defensively after 30 mins, which has happened several times this season already and hasn't seemingly been fixed yet.
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A few of Irish losses:wigworth wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 7:50 pmChiefs have managed a positive differential despite winning 4 and losing 5. It is just concerning that what today should have been a comfortable 10+ point win got turned into a close run affair mostly because we seemed out to sea defensively after 30 mins, which has happened several times this season already and hasn't seemingly been fixed yet.
Bath (A) 4 points
Gloucester (H) 1 point
Quins (A) 2 points
Chiefs (A) 5 points
As I said, they are no mugs. Quins and Chiefs you could argue are our rivals for Top 4 and possibly Gloucester. They only just beat them. We have more to come and can improve.
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Agree sadly.sapajo wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 6:01 pm Bringing on Atkinson to replace Nandolo on the wing when Burns was having a mare ball in hand sums up todays game for me. Ashton was poor he missed 2 tackles in a row on OHC that resulted in 2 tries for Irish and then ran like a headless chicken straight into Irish forwards and gave up a penalty for holding on as he ran away from support. If Jackson had not missed those 2 conversions we would have been toast giving up such a massive lead so easily was shockingly poor. We scraped the win by holding onto our minute lead which we failed to do against Bath and Exeter and came away with 5 points thats the big positive.
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Injuries and losing Moroni is definitely a factor, having to play without your #1 inside centre and throwing a winger in at 13. Cut out the penalties and we won’t be under pressure 5m out, where most teams will cash in. If you’re winning but not happy that’s a decent sign.Scott1 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 7:59 pm Whatever way you dress it up,going from conceding 2.16 trys a game to 3.75 is a huge worry, it's almost conceding a TBP every game! I understand the Sarries loss skews it a bit but no one can sit there with a straight face and say that the defence isn't a huge problem this season compared to last. It's night and day
Clare won’t be looking forward to watching the re run tomorrow. What a dumb penalty right in front of the ref.
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Not just defensively in the backs though,forwards are falling off tackles too and the defensive intensity bar Exeter is nowhere near the level of last season for me. There's glimpses here and there in individual players such as Martin but there's just seems something missing. Let's just hope it's a slow start and we grow into the season and we can judge again after a full complimentwestwinds31 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 8:05 pmInjuries and losing Moroni is definitely a factor, having to play without your #1 inside centre and throwing a winger in at 13. Cut out the penalties and we won’t be under pressure 5m out, where most teams will cash in. If you’re winning but not happy that’s a decent sign.Scott1 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 7:59 pm Whatever way you dress it up,going from conceding 2.16 trys a game to 3.75 is a huge worry, it's almost conceding a TBP every game! I understand the Sarries loss skews it a bit but no one can sit there with a straight face and say that the defence isn't a huge problem this season compared to last. It's night and day
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Quins away was our best defensive performance. It’s the same for other clubs….Gloucester without Atkinson aren’t the same for example.Scott1 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 8:10 pmNot just defensively in the backs though,forwards are falling off tackles too and the defensive intensity bar Exeter is nowhere near the level of last season for me. There's glimpses here and there in individual players such as Martin but there's just seems something missing. Let's just hope it's a slow start and we grow into the season and we can judge again after a full complimentwestwinds31 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 8:05 pmInjuries and losing Moroni is definitely a factor, having to play without your #1 inside centre and throwing a winger in at 13. Cut out the penalties and we won’t be under pressure 5m out, where most teams will cash in. If you’re winning but not happy that’s a decent sign.Scott1 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 7:59 pm Whatever way you dress it up,going from conceding 2.16 trys a game to 3.75 is a huge worry, it's almost conceding a TBP every game! I understand the Sarries loss skews it a bit but no one can sit there with a straight face and say that the defence isn't a huge problem this season compared to last. It's night and day