Logically, I would agree, but for the fact the Llanelli and Cardiff were left as identities and seem to have just withered away.Rugbygramps wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 1:49 pmThis is such a good point, and had Llanelli, Cardiff and Swansea, along with possibly Neath, been left as identities in their own right, rather than having to absorb lesser sides I think it would have been a different story. Giving Newport a region was a joke, they would have been better off spending the money in North Wales, or even further west Tenby etc.Wayne Richardson Fan Club wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 1:17 pm When you think of the level the top Welsh clubs were at pre Professionalism, the current state of affairs is a joke.
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Cardiff and Llanelli still exist as clubs, albeit in a lower tier. So do Swansea - falling down the tiers slowly - and Neath - almost gone.northerntiger wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 4:17 pmLogically, I would agree, but for the fact the Llanelli and Cardiff were left as identities and seem to have just withered away.Rugbygramps wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 1:49 pmThis is such a good point, and had Llanelli, Cardiff and Swansea, along with possibly Neath, been left as identities in their own right, rather than having to absorb lesser sides I think it would have been a different story. Giving Newport a region was a joke, they would have been better off spending the money in North Wales, or even further west Tenby etc.Wayne Richardson Fan Club wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 1:17 pm When you think of the level the top Welsh clubs were at pre Professionalism, the current state of affairs is a joke.
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They do of course you’re absolutely right., but as you say as rugby entities they are dwindling rather than being left to grow as clubs in their own right, instead of unsuccessful regions.jgriffin wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 4:22 pmCardiff and Llanelli still exist as clubs, albeit in a lower tier. So do Swansea - falling down the tiers slowly - and Neath - almost gone.northerntiger wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 4:17 pmLogically, I would agree, but for the fact the Llanelli and Cardiff were left as identities and seem to have just withered away.Rugbygramps wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 1:49 pm
This is such a good point, and had Llanelli, Cardiff and Swansea, along with possibly Neath, been left as identities in their own right, rather than having to absorb lesser sides I think it would have been a different story. Giving Newport a region was a joke, they would have been better off spending the money in North Wales, or even further west Tenby etc.
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I remember making the trip to Llanelli in the early to mid 90s to watch Rupert Moon (the cousin of a friend of mine) play when that team were a real force...jgriffin wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 4:22 pmCardiff and Llanelli still exist as clubs, albeit in a lower tier. So do Swansea - falling down the tiers slowly - and Neath - almost gone.northerntiger wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 4:17 pmLogically, I would agree, but for the fact the Llanelli and Cardiff were left as identities and seem to have just withered away.Rugbygramps wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 1:49 pm
This is such a good point, and had Llanelli, Cardiff and Swansea, along with possibly Neath, been left as identities in their own right, rather than having to absorb lesser sides I think it would have been a different story. Giving Newport a region was a joke, they would have been better off spending the money in North Wales, or even further west Tenby etc.
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Interesting Scarlets announce Steff Hughes is leaving them.
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Our social media team have also been very quiet today as if busy preparing for something else soon...RagingBull wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 7:44 pm Interesting Scarlets announce Steff Hughes is leaving them.
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Maybe although we have another rest week next weekend.TigerFeetSteve wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 7:47 pmOur social media team have also been very quiet today as if busy preparing for something else soon...RagingBull wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 7:44 pm Interesting Scarlets announce Steff Hughes is leaving them.
Slight worry is Moroni and Saumaki off
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Rob evans will be a decent addition for someone
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Certainly if Hughes is coming to us I think that would be curtains for Moroni as their wouldn’t be cap space for another centre, Saumaki being off would be concerning, he's done really well IMO and is if Nadolo leaves something a bit different.RagingBull wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 7:48 pmMaybe although we have another rest week next weekend.TigerFeetSteve wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 7:47 pmOur social media team have also been very quiet today as if busy preparing for something else soon...RagingBull wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 7:44 pm Interesting Scarlets announce Steff Hughes is leaving them.
Slight worry is Moroni and Saumaki off
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Very rarely fit these days unfortunately, he has better handling skills than many backs.
A fit Rob Evans would be a very astute signing for most teams.
It is a bit odd we haven't posted the leavers yet unless there are still some negotiations outstanding.
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Don't think most premiership club has announced their full list of leavers so not sure how it's odd.
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Who says Saumaki is leaving ? Big loss if so
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Agree but if it came down to keeping Saumaki or Kini think I would sooner keep the latter due to his versatility .
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Saumaki was at the Dragons game at the weekend. He might've just been visiting a friend of course and there's nothing in it. Or maybe they've offered him the security of a longer deal and he wants game time.
Saumaki didn't come into pro rugby until late so it's easy to forget he's already 30-years-old. 11 apps, 10 starts with 5 of those starts in the PRC isn't masses of game time. It could be that at this stage in his career he wants to play more.
I hope he stays. He's a phenomenal athlete and very talented finisher even if there are big holes elsewhere in his game that need improvement.
Saumaki didn't come into pro rugby until late so it's easy to forget he's already 30-years-old. 11 apps, 10 starts with 5 of those starts in the PRC isn't masses of game time. It could be that at this stage in his career he wants to play more.
I hope he stays. He's a phenomenal athlete and very talented finisher even if there are big holes elsewhere in his game that need improvement.