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Re: Exeter Chiefs 21st December

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It’s commercialisation, wholly inappropriate and racist, it should have been stopped years ago but Premiership were/and still are too weak to do so.
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JP14 wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2019 4:48 pm It’s commercialisation, wholly inappropriate and racist, it should have been stopped years ago but Premiership were/and still are too weak to do so.
It’s not isolated though is it. A number of American sports team with Native American connections through their name have exactly the same thing.
You have to be careful what accusations you band around JP14. How is it any more commercial than Tigers fans chanting and then buying stuffed tigers of various sizes, or having their faces painted.
As for racist we could have had half the Sri Lankan nation complaining for shouting Tigers
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Mark62 wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2019 5:06 pm
JP14 wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2019 4:48 pm It’s commercialisation, wholly inappropriate and racist, it should have been stopped years ago but Premiership were/and still are too weak to do so.
It’s not isolated though is it. A number of American sports team with Native American connections through their name have exactly the same thing.
You have to be careful what accusations you band around JP14. How is it any more commercial than Tigers fans chanting and then buying stuffed tigers of various sizes, or having their faces painted.
As for racist we could have had half the Sri Lankan nation complaining for shouting Tigers
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Re: Exeter Chiefs 21st December

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We have a genuine link to the name Tigers, as the Leicestershire Regiment served in India, I agree it’s not isolated but I really doubt our name is insensitive to anyone, we have a partnership with a team in Kuala Lumpur for example. I stand by my comments, the Tomahawk war chant is a mockery of American indigenous culture and invention by the NFL and Hollywood.
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JP14 wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2019 6:01 pm We have a genuine link to the name Tigers, as the Leicestershire Regiment served in India, I agree it’s not isolated but I really doubt our name is insensitive to anyone, we have a partnership with a team in Kuala Lumpur for example. I stand by my comments, the Tomahawk war chant is a mockery of American indigenous culture and invention by the NFL and Hollywood.
Yes we do but my point is that anybody can take offence at anything, and the Kansas City chiefs and the Atlanta Braves don’t have any issues to the best of my knowledge.

From your posts JP I think you are towards the younger end of the spectrum.
Dinosaurs such as myself come from an age before the world was ruled by political correctness and Human Resources, where common sense and humour were used, and in my experience it’s the do Gooders that claim to be offended rather than the particular section of society, and it’s where all the issues come from
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jgriffin wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2019 5:53 pm
Mark62 wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2019 5:06 pm
JP14 wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2019 4:48 pm It’s commercialisation, wholly inappropriate and racist, it should have been stopped years ago but Premiership were/and still are too weak to do so.
It’s not isolated though is it. A number of American sports team with Native American connections through their name have exactly the same thing.
You have to be careful what accusations you band around JP14. How is it any more commercial than Tigers fans chanting and then buying stuffed tigers of various sizes, or having their faces painted.
As for racist we could have had half the Sri Lankan nation complaining for shouting Tigers
Don't go there if you don't get it.
Sorry confused by your comment, yes it’s annoying but over commercialism and racist it isn’t
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For what it's worth, my objection to the 'Tomahawk Chop' has nothing to do with correctness - political or otherwise. It's just a tuneless, soul-less, pointless waste of air and vocal chords!
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Re: Exeter Chiefs 21st December

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strawclearer wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2019 6:41 pm For what it's worth, my objection to the 'Tomahawk Chop' has nothing to do with correctness - political or otherwise. It's just a tuneless, soul-less, pointless waste of air and vocal chords!
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Mark62 wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2019 6:51 pm
strawclearer wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2019 6:41 pm For what it's worth, my objection to the 'Tomahawk Chop' has nothing to do with correctness - political or otherwise. It's just a tuneless, soul-less, pointless waste of air and vocal chords!
Agreed
Erm...........and ‘Tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigers, Tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigers’ is tuneful, soulful and not a waste? :smt017 :smt003
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JP14 wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2019 4:48 pm It’s commercialisation, wholly inappropriate and racist, it should have been stopped years ago but Premiership were/and still are too weak to do so.
That’s quite ironic coming from your French ref comment on the Calvisano v Tigers thread.
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How do you know that my reference to all that wailing wasn't directed at Tigers supporters for their comments on here? :smt046
(it wasn't by the way, just the terrible sound made by Chiefs supporters).
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I once went as an Indian brave on a cowboys and Indians themed tour.
I don't remember much apart from getting drunk on cheap whisky and trying to steal cowgirls.
No idea what happened to my tomahawk, I reckon it possibly ended up on eBay.

On topic though, I have this funny feeling that Leicester are going to beat the Chiefs, sorry I mean Exeter.
Must be the whisky talking again!
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Re: Exeter Chiefs 21st December

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MCC1964 wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2019 7:06 pm
Mark62 wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2019 6:51 pm
strawclearer wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2019 6:41 pm For what it's worth, my objection to the 'Tomahawk Chop' has nothing to do with correctness - political or otherwise. It's just a tuneless, soul-less, pointless waste of air and vocal chords!
Agreed
Erm...........and ‘Tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigers, Tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigers’ is tuneful, soulful and not a waste? :smt017 :smt003
"Tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigers, Tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigers" is a tuneful rendition - fermata, rallentando and da capo - that has genuine English lyrics so.......it's poetry by comparison!
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Re: Exeter Chiefs 21st December

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Mark62 wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2019 6:29 pm
JP14 wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2019 6:01 pm We have a genuine link to the name Tigers, as the Leicestershire Regiment served in India, I agree it’s not isolated but I really doubt our name is insensitive to anyone, we have a partnership with a team in Kuala Lumpur for example. I stand by my comments, the Tomahawk war chant is a mockery of American indigenous culture and invention by the NFL and Hollywood.
Yes we do but my point is that anybody can take offence at anything, and the Kansas City chiefs and the Atlanta Braves don’t have any issues to the best of my knowledge.

From your posts JP I think you are towards the younger end of the spectrum.
Dinosaurs such as myself come from an age before the world was ruled by political correctness and Human Resources, where common sense and humour were used, and in my experience it’s the do Gooders that claim to be offended rather than the particular section of society, and it’s where all the issues come from
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I maybe on the younger side, you’re no dinosaur and whilst I certainly can complain about anything I’m not one of those offended at anything twitter types. Can we agree to disagree, and compromise that it’s unnecessary and annoying.
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