Tigers v Sale (A) - Premiership - Friday 10th May 2024 - KO: 7:45pm

[Turnaroundspecialist]

My fear is I am not sure how committed the team as a whole is. In the last few games when it comes to the crunch point we seem to find a way to fold.

[ourla]

Not sure I’ll bother turning up for the Exeter game next week. Got far more interesting things to do, jet washing the patio, cutting the grass, watching paint dry, to name just three.

Lot of fair weather fans showing themselves this last couple of weeks.

Not really, fans who are sick to the teeth of watching turgid rugby week after week with no improvement or cutting silly errors out. We never play the referee anymore either so are penalised for too regularly.

That's the very definition of a fair weather fan. It's not always been turgid. There has been good mixed in with the bad.

And has been mentioned there are mitigations.

I thought some of the boys who came off the bench tonight really stood up. It was good to see.

[Yorkietiger]

Not sure I’ll bother turning up for the Exeter game next week. Got far more interesting things to do, jet washing the patio, cutting the grass, watching paint dry, to name just three.

Lot of fair weather fans showing themselves this last couple of weeks.

Not a fair weather fan, a season ticket holder for three decades, and entitled to express my dissatisfaction.

[ourla]

Just to clarify, we've lost the game, conceded the 4 try bonus point try and not picked up a losing bonus point....and this isn't a disappointing result? Is it because we only lost by 9 or because we didn't throw it away in the last 10 minutes this week? Some people are very easily pleased if that's not a disappointing result.

I certainly would hope and expect the players are disappointed with it.

We have injuries, we've had no attack coach for months, we are playing away from home against a side with everything to play for where as some of our guys are leaving us soon, we are low on confidence. At certain moments in the game we look like we could cave tonight. But we didn't. And to lose by 9 was not a bad show.

[ourla]

Not sure I’ll bother turning up for the Exeter game next week. Got far more interesting things to do, jet washing the patio, cutting the grass, watching paint dry, to name just three.

Lot of fair weather fans showing themselves this last couple of weeks.

Not a fair weather fan, a season ticket holder for three decades, and entitled to express my dissatisfaction.

Sure but if you don't show up to support the team when they are struggling....?

[LE18]

Just to clarify, we've lost the game, conceded the 4 try bonus point try and not picked up a losing bonus point....and this isn't a disappointing result? Is it because we only lost by 9 or because we didn't throw it away in the last 10 minutes this week? Some people are very easily pleased if that's not a disappointing result.

I certainly would hope and expect the players are disappointed with it.

I would have thought the players were more disappointed, no livid, with the Bristol result.

[amazing tiger]

Just going back from the game and unlike some I’m not totally miserable about that game tbh. We showed exactly why we are 8th in the table we get decent field position and territory but can’t put any phases together as we make too many mistakes! Watching it live the try from the line out looked for too easy and their last try came from our cock up from the line out but we have played a lot worse in this season than we did today it wasn’t absolutely horrendous. Wiese is going to be a huge huge loss obviously and we are crying out for an attack coach but I don’t think we are in a terrible place like we were a couple of seasons before covid I can see us turning things around next season! Can anyone tell me why pollard went off so early was he injured he seemed to be holding something just before half time was that why?

[SthrnTiger]

Another very frustrating watch. If we’d got one more try at the end there could have come away with 2pts that would have been a reasonable return.

With the points difference 8th pretty much guaranteed. We’ve got to hope Sharks beat Gloucester in the challenge cup final or we won’t qualify for the champions cup as well.

[TigerFeetSteve]

Just going back from the game and unlike some I’m not totally miserable about that game tbh. We showed exactly why we are 8th in the table we get decent field position and territory but can’t put any phases together as we make too many mistakes! Watching it live the try from the line out looked for too easy and their last try came from our cock up from the line out but we have played a lot worse in this season than we did today it wasn’t absolutely horrendous. Wiese is going to be a huge huge loss obviously and we are crying out for an attack coach but I don’t think we are in a terrible place like we were a couple of seasons before covid I can see us turning things around next season! Can anyone tell me why pollard went off so early was he injured he seemed to be holding something just before half time was that why?

Pollard took a hit to the side of the knee I think from Manu, shortly after Shillcock took on kicking responsibilities and it appeared Pollard tried and failed to run it off....

Hopefully nothing too bad...

[amazing tiger]

Just going back from the game and unlike some I’m not totally miserable about that game tbh. We showed exactly why we are 8th in the table we get decent field position and territory but can’t put any phases together as we make too many mistakes! Watching it live the try from the line out looked for too easy and their last try came from our cock up from the line out but we have played a lot worse in this season than we did today it wasn’t absolutely horrendous. Wiese is going to be a huge huge loss obviously and we are crying out for an attack coach but I don’t think we are in a terrible place like we were a couple of seasons before covid I can see us turning things around next season! Can anyone tell me why pollard went off so early was he injured he seemed to be holding something just before half time was that why?

Pollard took a hit to the side of the knee I think from Manu, shortly after Shillcock took on kicking responsibilities and it appeared Pollard tried and failed to run it off....

Hopefully nothing too bad...

Thanks part of me hopes if he is injured he doesn’t play for South Africa but is fit for us at the start of the season

[TigerFeetSteve]

Just going back from the game and unlike some I’m not totally miserable about that game tbh. We showed exactly why we are 8th in the table we get decent field position and territory but can’t put any phases together as we make too many mistakes! Watching it live the try from the line out looked for too easy and their last try came from our cock up from the line out but we have played a lot worse in this season than we did today it wasn’t absolutely horrendous. Wiese is going to be a huge huge loss obviously and we are crying out for an attack coach but I don’t think we are in a terrible place like we were a couple of seasons before covid I can see us turning things around next season! Can anyone tell me why pollard went off so early was he injured he seemed to be holding something just before half time was that why?

Pollard took a hit to the side of the knee I think from Manu, shortly after Shillcock took on kicking responsibilities and it appeared Pollard tried and failed to run it off....

Hopefully nothing too bad...

Thanks part of me hopes if he is injured he doesn’t play for South Africa but is fit for us at the start of the season

That would be a nice surprise

[Stephen18]

Just to clarify, we've lost the game, conceded the 4 try bonus point try and not picked up a losing bonus point....and this isn't a disappointing result? Is it because we only lost by 9 or because we didn't throw it away in the last 10 minutes this week? Some people are very easily pleased if that's not a disappointing result.

I certainly would hope and expect the players are disappointed with it.

We have injuries, we've had no attack coach for months, we are playing away from home against a side with everything to play for where as some of our guys are leaving us soon, we are low on confidence. At certain moments in the game we look like we could cave tonight. But we didn't. And to lose by 9 was not a bad show.

We’ve had no attack coach for 4 seasons but still managed to play better than this. The issue is with this squad of players and how many bang average players there are in there getting game still, over giving young players a chance. even if they’re leaving. McKeller seems as short of confidence and ideas as the players do. He got a monumental job to do over the summer hopefully now with a season of premiership rugby under his belt he’ll understand what’s need to compete in this league.

[Stephen18]

Another very frustrating watch. If we’d got one more try at the end there could have come away with 2pts that would have been a reasonable return.

With the points difference 8th pretty much guaranteed. We’ve got to hope Sharks beat Gloucester in the challenge cup final or we won’t qualify for the champions cup as well.

52 and we’d need a bonus point win and Exeter to not get a single point from the last 2 games. So pretty much confirmed in 8th

[Tigersunited]

At the end of the day it’s not Dan’s fault, what other coach could cope with 23 weeks in a row, a World Cup and the players being fatigued because they have not played enough. Poor fella never stood a chance, next season no World Cup and hopefully the players don’t get fatigued, perhaps just get them to play every other week to avoid a 23 game stretch.

[Tigersunited]

And you are welcome to your IMHO - although I’m not sure why that entitles you to call me glib, but there you go.

They are not calling you glib, they are calling your generalisation glib, and they have a point. McKellar will be responsible for the results if they are ultimately not good enough, the buck stops with him as Head Coach.

But he is not and cannot be responsible for the players not being fit enough. That falls under the remit of the S&C coach, that is entirely his job. Using your logic Aled should get zero credit for his work, it was all down to Steve Borthwick.

The obsession of so many fans to pin every fault on McKellar is tiresome and tedious. You don’t have to like or rate the bloke, but stating every fault is his is nonsense.

I know you re well connected but I’m not sure why you feel you can run roughshod on my opinion. To say the HC is not responsible, a season in is interesting. You believe he should not be interested in players stats, GPS data etc, wonder if Dawson et al have that approach? (Ok I get every HC has a coach responsible for analysing data and getting them fit but the HC is responsible for that coach and surely works with him to get what he wants on a Saturday?)
My logic, which you seem to claim to understand better than I do, is Aled was excellent and I am pretty sure SB was close to everything he did - I’m sorry I am glib, tiresome, and tedious to you, perhaps because I don’t agree with you, but I’m not sure you are the oracle.