Tigers v Quins (A) - Premiership - Friday 26th January 2024 - KO- 19:45

[TigerFeetSteve]

Ok I'm starting the match thread early but given the England squad players are away I do think there's plenty to talk about for it

Tigers players missing:
Cole
O.Chessum
Heyes
Steward

(Not missing Reffell & Hurd)

Quins players missing:
Beard
Care
Cunningham-South
Dombrandt
Marler
Smith

Worth noting Quins have signed Arthur Clark on a 2 week deal from Gloucester to cover this game.
https://twitter.com/gloucesterrugby/sta ... lJ5lQ&s=19

[Rugbygramps]

Two areas of concern provided no more injuries. Replacement lock though can probably be covered by Liebenberg or Hatherall and replacement tight head. Can Richardson do a job or maybe Van Wyk can do a crash course in tight head he has the build.

Brown
Bassett
Scott
Kelly
OHC
Pollard
Youngs
Cronin
Montoya
Hurd
Wells
Carter
Liebenberg
Reffell
Wiese

Bench - FTT, Whitcombe, Van Wyk, Hatherall, Rogerson, Whitely, Shilcock, Kata

[TigerFeetSteve]

Two areas of concern provided no more injuries. Replacement lock though can probably be covered by Liebenberg or Hatherall and replacement tight head. Can Richardson do a job or maybe Van Wyk can do a crash course in tight head he has the build.

Brown
Bassett
Scott
Kelly
OHC
Pollard
Youngs
Cronin
Montoya
Hurd
Wells
Carter
Liebenberg
Reffell
Wiese

Bench - FTT, Whitcombe, Van Wyk, Hatherall, Rogerson, Whitely, Shilcock, Kata

Richardson has been starting most weeks for Nottingham in the Championship at Tighthead when available (quite a few weeks he's been our reserve prop)

I'd certainly take him over say Van Wyk swapping sides...

[KiwiTig]

It’s a pretty decent squad despite our losses….lets see what Leinster brings first mind

[TigerFeetSteve]

Next weekend will be a completely different challenge for us.

Reffell injured is a huge loss IMO.

Assuming him and Simmons are both out.

Steward
Bassett
Scott
Kelly
Hassell-Collins
Pollard
Youngs
Cronin
Montoya
Hurd
Wells
Carter
Liebenberg
Illione
Wiese

Van Wyk
Vanes
Richardson
Hatherall
Rogerson
Whiteley
Shillcock
Kata

[Tigerbeat]

Simmons will certainly be out...for quite a while I suspect. Eye injury was serious.

[sam16111986]

We will definitely need an openside playing 7 for this. Will Evans will murder us at the breakdown if we got big at the backrow and don't resource it properly.

[Jimmy Skitz]

Shilcock
OHC
Scott
Kelly
Brown
Pollard
Youngs
Cronin
Montoya
Hurd
Wells
Carter
Hanro
Illione
Jasper

[RunTigerRun]

Next weekend will be a completely different challenge for us.

Reffell injured is a huge loss IMO.

Assuming him and Simmons are both out.

Steward
Bassett
Scott
Kelly
Hassell-Collins
Pollard
Youngs
Cronin
Montoya
Hurd
Wells
Carter
Liebenberg
Illione
Wiese

Van Wyk
Vanes
Richardson
Hatherall
Rogerson
Whiteley
Shillcock
Kata

Swap Steward for Brown as Steward will be with England. I’d also swap Whiteley and Youngs as Whiteley is playing better IMO.

[albany]

Oh dear, an eye injury isn't good! I thought it was a broken jaw from his reaction. Caught the full force of a Lowe hand-off!

[Scott1]

Another loss I feel and the end of the playoffs. Season is turning into a damp squib

[RunTigerRun]

Simmons will certainly be out...for quite a while I suspect. Eye injury was serious.

I don’t want to make a mountain out of a mole hill…. But if it is an eye injury then is there not grounds for a citing? Reckless contact with the eyes even if unintentional is still a PK/YC if I’m not mistaken?

The photo used on the telegraphs article of the game certainly looks like Lowe’s fingers are dangerously close/in Simmons’ eye… https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union ... leicester/

I’m not suggesting there was any malice as Lowe does not seem that type of player. More the fact that eye contact / injuries (intention or not) are foul play.

[Pellsey]

Simmons will certainly be out...for quite a while I suspect. Eye injury was serious.

I don’t want to make a mountain out of a mole hill…. But if it is an eye injury then is there not grounds for a citing? Reckless contact with the eyes even if unintentional is still a PK/YC if I’m not mistaken?

The photo used on the telegraphs article of the game certainly looks like Lowe’s fingers are dangerously close/in Simmons’ eye… https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union ... leicester/

I’m not suggesting there was any malice as Lowe does not seem that type of player. More the fact that eye contact / injuries (intention or not) are foul play.

Looking at that picture, he should be cited. With flat hands, he would have not touched Simmon's eyes. Lowe's fingers were in Simmon eyes because the hands were not flat. This is either intentional or poor technique. In this case IMHO it is poor technique, but in either case, this should not happen at this level, and should be stamped out.

[RunTigerRun]

Simmons will certainly be out...for quite a while I suspect. Eye injury was serious.

I don’t want to make a mountain out of a mole hill…. But if it is an eye injury then is there not grounds for a citing? Reckless contact with the eyes even if unintentional is still a PK/YC if I’m not mistaken?

The photo used on the telegraphs article of the game certainly looks like Lowe’s fingers are dangerously close/in Simmons’ eye… https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union ... leicester/

I’m not suggesting there was any malice as Lowe does not seem that type of player. More the fact that eye contact / injuries (intention or not) are foul play.

Looking at that picture, he should be cited. With flat hands, he would have not touched Simmon's eyes. Lowe's fingers were in Simmon eyes because the hands were not flat. This is either intentional or poor technique. In this case IMHO it is poor technique, but in either case, this should not happen at this level, and should be stamped out.

Agreed. I don’t think there is intent from Lowe, but the fact is there is contact with the eyes. I remember an incident with Ollie Chessum in a maul in a game where he accidentally made contact and was given a yellow immediately. It’s the lack of consistency that is the most frustrating part. Some thing which was frustrating about the officials yesterday too.

[Pellsey]

I don’t want to make a mountain out of a mole hill…. But if it is an eye injury then is there not grounds for a citing? Reckless contact with the eyes even if unintentional is still a PK/YC if I’m not mistaken?

The photo used on the telegraphs article of the game certainly looks like Lowe’s fingers are dangerously close/in Simmons’ eye… https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union ... leicester/

I’m not suggesting there was any malice as Lowe does not seem that type of player. More the fact that eye contact / injuries (intention or not) are foul play.

Looking at that picture, he should be cited. With flat hands, he would have not touched Simmon's eyes. Lowe's fingers were in Simmon eyes because the hands were not flat. This is either intentional or poor technique. In this case IMHO it is poor technique, but in either case, this should not happen at this level, and should be stamped out.

Agreed. I don’t think there is intent from Lowe, but the fact is there is contact with the eyes. I remember an incident with Ollie Chessum in a maul in a game where he accidentally made contact and was given a yellow immediately. It’s the lack of consistency that is the most frustrating part. Some thing which was frustrating about the officials yesterday too.

The officials yesterday were either completely out of their depth, or they had their eyes closed for the majority of it... or just need better glasses. Missing such things is not really excusable, because it was obvious there was an eye injury, and in this case, how it happened should have been looked at too. Same with the high shot on Kata last week.