Tigers v Quins (A) - Premiership - Friday 26th January 2024 - KO- 19:45

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Re: Tigers v Quins (A) - Premiership - Friday 26th January 2024 - KO- 19:45

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Rugbygramps wrote: Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:05 pm Plenty of options. Worth remembering that Shilcock is unlikely to get many runs at 15 as the England guys won’t miss any more premiership games
This is true. I’m probably in the minority that doesn’t mind Internationals clashing with the Premiership as it gives the young ‘uns an opportunity to play in a meaningful competition.

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Re: Tigers v Quins (A) - Premiership - Friday 26th January 2024 - KO- 19:45

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No6_Flanker wrote: Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:08 pm
Rugbygramps wrote: Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:05 pm Plenty of options. Worth remembering that Shilcock is unlikely to get many runs at 15 as the England guys won’t miss any more premiership games
This is true. I’m probably in the minority that doesn’t mind Internationals clashing with the Premiership as it gives the young ‘uns an opportunity to play in a meaningful competition.

(Worms. Can. Opened.)
The biggest issue is that it isn’t an even split some clubs are more disadvantaged than others
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Re: Tigers v Quins (A) - Premiership - Friday 26th January 2024 - KO- 19:45

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just watching it back now, really not sure how much we'll miss Cronin if the rumours of him leaving are true, seems to get folded a lot in the scrum. We need to give Jimmy Whitcombe as much game time as possible IMO.

Hatherall was targeted by their defence was double tacked almost every time but he had a good game. Some of Whiteley's passes are either too low or way too high and box kicks are often straight up in the air which is frustrating as he had a fine game overall.

Back 3 played really well especially OHC.

and after all the worry Richardson was superb, certainly not out of place in any matchday 23 on this viewing
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Re: Tigers v Quins (A) - Premiership - Friday 26th January 2024 - KO- 19:45

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No6_Flanker wrote: Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:08 pm
Rugbygramps wrote: Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:05 pm Plenty of options. Worth remembering that Shilcock is unlikely to get many runs at 15 as the England guys won’t miss any more premiership games
This is true. I’m probably in the minority that doesn’t mind Internationals clashing with the Premiership as it gives the young ‘uns an opportunity to play in a meaningful competition.

(Worms. Can. Opened.)
well if England stop picking all our specialist in certain positions it'd be liveable, at least this year they couldn't pick both 9s as well as both tightheads
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Re: Tigers v Quins (A) - Premiership - Friday 26th January 2024 - KO- 19:45

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Jimmy Skitz wrote: Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:22 pm
No6_Flanker wrote: Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:08 pm
Rugbygramps wrote: Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:05 pm Plenty of options. Worth remembering that Shilcock is unlikely to get many runs at 15 as the England guys won’t miss any more premiership games
This is true. I’m probably in the minority that doesn’t mind Internationals clashing with the Premiership as it gives the young ‘uns an opportunity to play in a meaningful competition.

(Worms. Can. Opened.)
well if England stop picking all our specialist in certain positions it'd be liveable, at least this year they couldn't pick both 9s as well as both tightheads
And why shouldn’t they if both are thought to be good enough
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Re: Tigers v Quins (A) - Premiership - Friday 26th January 2024 - KO- 19:45

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Rugbygramps wrote: Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:16 pm IMO Kelly Scott is currently our strongest partnership, others I’m sure will disagree. Kelly is back to approaching his best form and his passing game is better than the other 2. The fact that he is becoming equally comfortable at 12 or 13 is a bonus. Add to that the return on Guy Porter and we are in an enviable position
Rugbygramps, having just watched the latest Tigers Eyes episode and last night’s highlights, I take back my comments: Kelly has been instrumental in several of our recent tries!
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Re: Tigers v Quins (A) - Premiership - Friday 26th January 2024 - KO- 19:45

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No6_Flanker wrote: Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:26 pm
Rugbygramps wrote: Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:16 pm IMO Kelly Scott is currently our strongest partnership, others I’m sure will disagree. Kelly is back to approaching his best form and his passing game is better than the other 2. The fact that he is becoming equally comfortable at 12 or 13 is a bonus. Add to that the return on Guy Porter and we are in an enviable position
Rugbygramps, having just watched the latest Tigers Eyes episode and last night’s highlights, I take back my comments: Kelly has been instrumental in several of our recent tries!
His form definitely dropped but I think he is not far off now when he was in the England frame. Both his and Pollards passes that led to OHC break for Browns try were top draw
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Re: Tigers v Quins (A) - Premiership - Friday 26th January 2024 - KO- 19:45

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Rugbygramps wrote: Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:25 pm
Jimmy Skitz wrote: Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:22 pm
No6_Flanker wrote: Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:08 pm

This is true. I’m probably in the minority that doesn’t mind Internationals clashing with the Premiership as it gives the young ‘uns an opportunity to play in a meaningful competition.

(Worms. Can. Opened.)
well if England stop picking all our specialist in certain positions it'd be liveable, at least this year they couldn't pick both 9s as well as both tightheads
And why shouldn’t they if both are thought to be good enough
if there are no prem games by all means but if we were being forced to play league games it has far too much of an impact in the league, get out of the amateur mindset, rugby is professional and struggles to get fans in on the whole making teams play without their best players too much hurts this, people that try after watching 6 nations want to see those players for their clubs.

nearly 30 years after going pro its well past time this stuff was sorted
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Re: Tigers v Quins (A) - Premiership - Friday 26th January 2024 - KO- 19:45

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Jimmy Skitz wrote: Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:35 pm
Rugbygramps wrote: Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:25 pm
Jimmy Skitz wrote: Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:22 pm
well if England stop picking all our specialist in certain positions it'd be liveable, at least this year they couldn't pick both 9s as well as both tightheads
And why shouldn’t they if both are thought to be good enough
if there are no prem games by all means but if we were being forced to play league games it has far too much of an impact in the league, get out of the amateur mindset, rugby is professional and struggles to get fans in on the whole making teams play without their best players too much hurts this, people that try after watching 6 nations want to see those players for their clubs.

nearly 30 years after going pro its well past time this stuff was sorted
I hope you’re not accusing me of having an amateur mindset !!
My view is that it’s the pinnacle of a players career and no one should question that
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Re: Tigers v Quins (A) - Premiership - Friday 26th January 2024 - KO- 19:45

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Rugbygramps wrote: Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:39 pm
Jimmy Skitz wrote: Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:35 pm
Rugbygramps wrote: Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:25 pm

And why shouldn’t they if both are thought to be good enough
if there are no prem games by all means but if we were being forced to play league games it has far too much of an impact in the league, get out of the amateur mindset, rugby is professional and struggles to get fans in on the whole making teams play without their best players too much hurts this, people that try after watching 6 nations want to see those players for their clubs.

nearly 30 years after going pro its well past time this stuff was sorted
I hope you’re not accusing me of having an amateur mindset !!
My view is that it’s the pinnacle of a players career and no one should question that
I begrudge no one the chance of playing for their country, but Rugby's insistence of playing World Cups and 6 Nations during league seasons is amateur mindset.

The way 10 teams came about was disastrous but now we have not one single league game should be affected by international call ups, World Cup needs to finish before the league starts also, no reason for it not to
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Re: Tigers v Quins (A) - Premiership - Friday 26th January 2024 - KO- 19:45

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Jimmy Skitz wrote: Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:49 pm
Rugbygramps wrote: Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:39 pm
Jimmy Skitz wrote: Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:35 pm

if there are no prem games by all means but if we were being forced to play league games it has far too much of an impact in the league, get out of the amateur mindset, rugby is professional and struggles to get fans in on the whole making teams play without their best players too much hurts this, people that try after watching 6 nations want to see those players for their clubs.

nearly 30 years after going pro its well past time this stuff was sorted
I hope you’re not accusing me of having an amateur mindset !!
My view is that it’s the pinnacle of a players career and no one should question that
I begrudge no one the chance of playing for their country, but Rugby's insistence of playing World Cups and 6 Nations during league seasons is amateur mindset.

The way 10 teams came about was disastrous but now we have not one single league game should be affected by international call ups, World Cup needs to finish before the league starts also, no reason for it not to
Fair point. Of course the only issue, World Cup aside, is with England and the RFU, nuff said I suppose
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Re: Tigers v Quins (A) - Premiership - Friday 26th January 2024 - KO- 19:45

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Huge, huge result - and one that I didn't expect. We're now in with every chance of the playoffs, maybe even a home semi, but still plenty to do.

Some really solid performances from players who don't usually get much of a look in, and the established names really stood up too.

For all the criticism, and all the World Cup absentees and injuries, we've won as many games as the much-vaunted Bath, and Sarries (if they win today). Only Saints will have won more, unless Exeter win at the Allianz. That's a pretty good season so far.
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Re: Tigers v Quins (A) - Premiership - Friday 26th January 2024 - KO- 19:45

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Rugbygramps wrote: Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:55 pm
Jimmy Skitz wrote: Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:49 pm
Rugbygramps wrote: Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:39 pm

I hope you’re not accusing me of having an amateur mindset !!
My view is that it’s the pinnacle of a players career and no one should question that
I begrudge no one the chance of playing for their country, but Rugby's insistence of playing World Cups and 6 Nations during league seasons is amateur mindset.

The way 10 teams came about was disastrous but now we have not one single league game should be affected by international call ups, World Cup needs to finish before the league starts also, no reason for it not to
Fair point. Of course the only issue, World Cup aside, is with England and the RFU, nuff said I suppose
Premiership Rugby are also responsible as they signed an agreement for access to players for training sessions and release before internationals...not all lies with England and the RFU
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Re: Tigers v Quins (A) - Premiership - Friday 26th January 2024 - KO- 19:45

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Two things: Scott or Kelly?
Kelly has far more pace than Scott: we saw that last week when Scott was chased down, admittedly by the excellent Lowe, but we need Kelly’s speed and if he can stay injury free he will continue to improve. Scott is great to bring on as a replacement particularly in tight games as his defence is usually excellent.
As for the international call ups! Quins’fans I spoke to just said, like we’ve said v Saints in the past few seasons, it’s a shame genuine rugby fans are deprived of seeing the best players! One fan he was so fed up with the drunken behaviour at Twickenham during the England games he was now watching Quins’ ladies!
Whatever happens let’s hope our luck on injuries improved as we haven’t really seen anything near our first choice 23! Wells too had a great game again last night and I really do believe our line out is better with him in the team!
I don’t care if we win a few more like last night especially Leinster!
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Re: Tigers v Quins (A) - Premiership - Friday 26th January 2024 - KO- 19:45

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Was there last night, take my hat off to the lads and the coaches - they surprised me and I wasn’t convinced we could get the result so fair play, for me Richardson was great, he’s hardly played and came in made 19 tackles which is awesome, and, was decent in the scrum too.
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