Innovation or return of the good old days

[Rugbygramps]

Excellent points Tiglon.
I was thinking about the maul law I quoted earlier. If I understand it correctly maul shouldn’t be called until a 2nd player from the team in possession binds on. So would I be right in saying that 3, 4 or 5 defensive players could latch on without it ever being a maul

[Tiglon]

Excellent points Tiglon.
I was thinking about the maul law I quoted earlier. If I understand it correctly maul shouldn’t be called until a 2nd player from the team in possession binds on. So would I be right in saying that 3, 4 or 5 defensive players could latch on without it ever being a maul

That's how I understand it, yes. The danger for the attacking team is that if they leave the ball carrier with 2/3/4 tacklers, to avoid the maul, he may get driven back a long way.

I honestly think it should be refereed out of the game. It's boring to watch, and it encourages the ball carrier to stay lower and the tacklers to go higher.

[Big Dai]

just add everyone releasing the ball immediately on the floor and only competing with the feet in a ruck and then we really will have returned to utopia

You can have a couple too

Even better, let’s return to muddy, error strewn 9-6 matches

Probably better the a 35-33 game of uncoordinated pass the handbag with forward passes and offsides galore, never mind the obligatory 15 minute debate on whether there was head contact and was their mitigation.

Harrumph

[sk 88]

Sorry for having my own opinion. Would a quiet message board without dissenting opinions.

I don’t disagree and of course you have your own valid opinion.

My question above still stands why not enjoy the smart piece of play instead of questioning what happened, and why question the officials and the TMO review.

That’s my opinion which I’m not sorry for having

I think expecting the rules of the game to be followed is a pretty banal opinion. Didn't consider it one of my more controversial ones to be honest.

[sk 88]

Excellent points Tiglon.
I was thinking about the maul law I quoted earlier. If I understand it correctly maul shouldn’t be called until a 2nd player from the team in possession binds on. So would I be right in saying that 3, 4 or 5 defensive players could latch on without it ever being a maul

Correct, you see it quite a lot in sevens (well, maybe not "quite a lot" but "on occasion") the attacking players don't join in so it remains a sort of nothing in the laws*. The original player in possession is then squirming to get to ground, or get the ball loose for a pass, while the defenders usually try and march them into touch.

*It isn't a tackle as the ball carrier isn't brought to ground, it isn't a maul, it obviously isn't a ruck. So it's sort just a free for all.

[LE18]

Excellent points Tiglon.
I was thinking about the maul law I quoted earlier. If I understand it correctly maul shouldn’t be called until a 2nd player from the team in possession binds on. So would I be right in saying that 3, 4 or 5 defensive players could latch on without it ever being a maul

Correct, you see it quite a lot in sevens (well, maybe not "quite a lot" but "on occasion") the attacking players don't join in so it remains a sort of nothing in the laws*. The original player in possession is then squirming to get to ground, or get the ball loose for a pass, while the defenders usually try and march them into touch.

*It isn't a tackle as the ball carrier isn't brought to ground, it isn't a maul, it obviously isn't a ruck. So it's sort just a free for all.

I thought from an ealier poster quoting the Law that a maul is ether 1 v 2 or 2 v 1 or more, ie min 3.

[Tiglon]

Excellent points Tiglon.
I was thinking about the maul law I quoted earlier. If I understand it correctly maul shouldn’t be called until a 2nd player from the team in possession binds on. So would I be right in saying that 3, 4 or 5 defensive players could latch on without it ever being a maul

Correct, you see it quite a lot in sevens (well, maybe not "quite a lot" but "on occasion") the attacking players don't join in so it remains a sort of nothing in the laws*. The original player in possession is then squirming to get to ground, or get the ball loose for a pass, while the defenders usually try and march them into touch.

*It isn't a tackle as the ball carrier isn't brought to ground, it isn't a maul, it obviously isn't a ruck. So it's sort just a free for all.

I thought from an ealier poster quoting the Law that a maul is ether 1 v 2 or 2 v 1 or more, ie min 3.

Has to be the ball carrier, one or more tacklers, and at least one other player from the ball carrier's team.