Tigers v Gloucester (A) - Premiership - Saturday 25th November 2023 - KO: 14:30

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Re: Tigers v Gloucester (A) - Premiership - Saturday 25th November 2023 - KO: 14:30

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fentiger wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:33 am Kata looks better every game... loves to get involved in the maul... that try proves the worth of that with his sharpness of mind and body! IMO he's like Manu but adds more (tin hat on :smt044 ).
Agree about Kata seems a good player and was surprised Exeter let him go. With Watson, Martin, JVP, Dolly and Hatherall to come in squad looks good
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fentiger wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:33 am Kata looks better every game... loves to get involved in the maul... that try proves the worth of that with his sharpness of mind and body! IMO he's like Manu but adds more (tin hat on :smt044 ).
He adds a brilliant physical presence to the backline that we missed once Nadolo moved back to Australia. There was a definite drop off in distribution from 12 when he replaced Kelly through. Kelly moved the ball really nicely freeing up Pollard, Scott and Steward at different times to have time and space in slightly wider channels to launch attacks. Didn't happen so well once Kat's came on though the Glaws defence couldn't drift as he'd nearly always run over the top of the first would be tackler.

Contrasting options, nice to have both and be able to switch from one to the other on a horse's for courses basis.
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Re: Tigers v Gloucester (A) - Premiership - Saturday 25th November 2023 - KO: 14:30

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ay2oh wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2023 11:11 am
fentiger wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:33 am Kata looks better every game... loves to get involved in the maul... that try proves the worth of that with his sharpness of mind and body! IMO he's like Manu but adds more (tin hat on :smt044 ).
Agree about Kata seems a good player and was surprised Exeter let him go.
They were signing Hawkins who's both a physical presence but also a distributor having played some 10 at age grade levels.
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Re: Tigers v Gloucester (A) - Premiership - Saturday 25th November 2023 - KO: 14:30

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fentiger wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:58 pm Several times Gloucester almost imperceptibly held back at the engage, in fact it was imperceptible to the ref! That was why we looked bad in the scrum :smt017 Always worth remembering that Skivington's coaching set revolves around the pack!
They did, in fact, get pinged for it once.
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Re: Tigers v Gloucester (A) - Premiership - Saturday 25th November 2023 - KO: 14:30

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Interesting Mckellar comment after the game that it was right for Kata to come on from the bench today, indicating a horses for course’s approach
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Re: Tigers v Gloucester (A) - Premiership - Saturday 25th November 2023 - KO: 14:30

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It's nice to have threats all over the park, the Glaws fans bemoaning how bad they were playing, I don't agree, I thought they played well, just not as well as we did.
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Re: Tigers v Gloucester (A) - Premiership - Saturday 25th November 2023 - KO: 14:30

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tigerburnie wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2023 11:35 am It's nice to have threats all over the park, the Glaws fans bemoaning how bad they were playing, I don't agree, I thought they played well, just not as well as we did.
I would agree. They played as well as we allowed them to and it was only daft penalties and Chessum yellow card that kept them in the contest
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Whilst I endorse the need to protect the players thought the Chessum yellow card was a joke. No danger whatsoever to the Gloucester player and don’t know where this will all end.
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Re: Tigers v Gloucester (A) - Premiership - Saturday 25th November 2023 - KO: 14:30

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ay2oh wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2023 12:43 pm Whilst I endorse the need to protect the players thought the Chessum yellow card was a joke. No danger whatsoever to the Gloucester player and don’t know where this will all end.
More so as, on replay, it was obvious he let go as soon as he realised it was around the face!
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Re: Tigers v Gloucester (A) - Premiership - Saturday 25th November 2023 - KO: 14:30

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ay2oh wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2023 12:43 pm Whilst I endorse the need to protect the players thought the Chessum yellow card was a joke. No danger whatsoever to the Gloucester player and don’t know where this will all end.
The point was made during commentary that both the Chessum and Barton yellow cards were soft, more clumsy than malicious or deliberate. No blame on the officials as the laws stand they were both correct decisions and Chessum knows you put your hand near or on an opponent’s face you risk a card
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Re: Tigers v Gloucester (A) - Premiership - Saturday 25th November 2023 - KO: 14:30

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ay2oh wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2023 11:11 am
fentiger wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:33 am Kata looks better every game... loves to get involved in the maul... that try proves the worth of that with his sharpness of mind and body! IMO he's like Manu but adds more (tin hat on :smt044 ).
Agree about Kata seems a good player and was surprised Exeter let him go. With Watson, Martin, JVP, Dolly and Hatherall to come in squad looks good
Hopefully we use him for more than a crash ball centre. I suspect there was a pull factor for the move to Tigers as he'd worked with McKellar in Oz
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Re: Tigers v Gloucester (A) - Premiership - Saturday 25th November 2023 - KO: 14:30

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sam16111986 wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2023 11:20 am
fentiger wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:33 am Kata looks better every game... loves to get involved in the maul... that try proves the worth of that with his sharpness of mind and body! IMO he's like Manu but adds more (tin hat on :smt044 ).
He adds a brilliant physical presence to the backline that we missed once Nadolo moved back to Australia. There was a definite drop off in distribution from 12 when he replaced Kelly through. Kelly moved the ball really nicely freeing up Pollard, Scott and Steward at different times to have time and space in slightly wider channels to launch attacks. Didn't happen so well once Kat's came on though the Glaws defence couldn't drift as he'd nearly always run over the top of the first would be tackler.

Contrasting options, nice to have both and be able to switch from one to the other on a horse's for courses basis.
Agreed I really like what Kata brings to the squad
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Re: Tigers v Gloucester (A) - Premiership - Saturday 25th November 2023 - KO: 14:30

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I do like the idea of Kata on the bench.

The impact he makes against tired legs is crazy

Prime bench of
16. Dolly
17. Whitcombe
18. Heyes
19. Henderson
20. Hatherall
21. Youngs
22. Shillcock
23. Kata

Is crazy impact really
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Re: Tigers v Gloucester (A) - Premiership - Saturday 25th November 2023 - KO: 14:30

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RagingBull wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2023 7:26 pm I do like the idea of Kata on the bench.

The impact he makes against tired legs is crazy

Prime bench of
16. Dolly
17. Whitcombe
18. Heyes
19. Henderson
20. Hatherall
21. Youngs
22. Shillcock
23. Kata

Is crazy impact really
Go for maximum impact and swap Henderson for Martin (assuming Martin is starting in the prime team..!) and that’s some punch!
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Re: Tigers v Gloucester (A) - Premiership - Saturday 25th November 2023 - KO: 14:30

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ay2oh wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2023 12:43 pm Whilst I endorse the need to protect the players thought the Chessum yellow card was a joke. No danger whatsoever to the Gloucester player and don’t know where this will all end.

All and calls decisions are essentially subjective. Starts and ends with relative authorities.
There will never be consistency (unfortunately).
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