Tigers v Sale (H) - Premiership - Saturday 21st October 2023 KO:15:05

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Re: Tigers v Sale (H) - Premiership - Saturday 21st October 2023 KO:15:05

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Lose the next two, after all the over hype dolled out pre-season, and the season is virtually written off . There are a number who just dont seem good enough to be in the Premiership in the team at present. As for Coaching. What Coaching??
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Re: Tigers v Sale (H) - Premiership - Saturday 21st October 2023 KO:15:05

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Has the other coach (Palmer?) arrived yet?
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fentiger wrote: Mon Oct 23, 2023 4:47 pm Has the other coach (Palmer?) arrived yet?
Yes, photos of him on site today.
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Re: Tigers v Sale (H) - Premiership - Saturday 21st October 2023 KO:15:05

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fortysix wrote: Mon Oct 23, 2023 4:38 pm Lose the next two, after all the over hype dolled out pre-season, and the season is virtually written off . There are a number who just dont seem good enough to be in the Premiership in the team at present. As for Coaching. What Coaching??
Season written off after 4 games I don’t think so. You do know we only have to finish top 4 don’t you
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Re: Tigers v Sale (H) - Premiership - Saturday 21st October 2023 KO:15:05

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ay2oh wrote: Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:15 pm
fortysix wrote: Mon Oct 23, 2023 4:38 pm Lose the next two, after all the over hype dolled out pre-season, and the season is virtually written off . There are a number who just dont seem good enough to be in the Premiership in the team at present. As for Coaching. What Coaching??
Season written off after 4 games I don’t think so. You do know we only have to finish top 4 don’t you
Is it top 5 for HC this season?
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Re: Tigers v Sale (H) - Premiership - Saturday 21st October 2023 KO:15:05

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GB72 wrote: Mon Oct 23, 2023 4:50 pm
fentiger wrote: Mon Oct 23, 2023 4:47 pm Has the other coach (Palmer?) arrived yet?
Yes, photos of him on site today.
Thanks :smt023
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Read today in DT that Kevin Sinfield is leaving the England coaching team, he does not have enough experience for that level. Also Aled is stepping up, he is taking over the media role etc as hes done very well.
Judging by our defence on Saturday where Sale just dummied their way through our centres, we need him back immediately. Du Preez had us on toast, not only our defence but we had no attacking threat, Kelly, Porter (only part time) and Cockasigna had very poor games.

Do we have a place kicking coach?, left footed kickers (Bar Jonnie) always seem to struggle in my opinion.
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LE18 wrote: Mon Oct 23, 2023 7:04 pm Read today in DT that Kevin Sinfield is leaving the England coaching team, he does not have enough experience for that level. Also Aled is stepping up, he is taking over the media role etc as hes done very well.
Judging by our defence on Saturday where Sale just dummied their way through our centres, we need him back immediately. Du Preez had us on toast, not only our defence but we had no attacking threat, Kelly, Porter (only part time) and Cockasigna had very poor games.

Do we have a place kicking coach?, left footed kickers (Bar Jonnie) always seem to struggle in my opinion.
You do remember how dire our defence was last season until Sinfield's departure, don't you???
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LE18 wrote: Mon Oct 23, 2023 7:04 pm Read today in DT that Kevin Sinfield is leaving the England coaching team, he does not have enough experience for that level. Also Aled is stepping up, he is taking over the media role etc as hes done very well.
That's not exactly what it said, is it. It suggested an opinion that England may opt for having a more engaging, media friendly face to link both with the players and fans, and offered a personality like David Flatman, but more likely to be Aled.

On the former point, for clarity:

"(Felix Jones') arrival in January will almost certainly see Kevin Sinfield, England’s current defence coach who joined the set-up from Leicester with Borthwick but has lacked the experience to make a significant impact on the Test stage, move on as part of a mutual agreement."
Do we have a place kicking coach?, left footed kickers (Bar Jonnie) always seem to struggle in my opinion.
Obviously it's magnified at the moment because both our kickers are left footers and one of them is struggling. I think it's be difficult to back up your opinion with stats.
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In terms of attack, I would say the players look a bit lost. I don't think that's an individual failing, probably more due to very early days in a new coaching team's journey - attack is often the last think that clicks.
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Re: Tigers v Sale (H) - Premiership - Saturday 21st October 2023 KO:15:05

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Tiglon wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 3:02 pm In terms of attack, I would say the players look a bit lost. I don't think that's an individual failing, probably more due to very early days in a new coaching team's journey - attack is often the last think that clicks.
Unfortunately we've been saying that and waiting for our attack to 'click' for quite some time.... :smt017
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fentiger wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 3:04 pm
Tiglon wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 3:02 pm In terms of attack, I would say the players look a bit lost. I don't think that's an individual failing, probably more due to very early days in a new coaching team's journey - attack is often the last think that clicks.
Unfortunately we've been saying that and waiting for our attack to 'click' for quite some time.... :smt017
If we'd have had the same coaching team for the last 4 years it might have clicked by now, and TBF back end of last season it wasn't too bad under Wig.
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ads wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 3:26 pm
fentiger wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 3:04 pm
Tiglon wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 3:02 pm In terms of attack, I would say the players look a bit lost. I don't think that's an individual failing, probably more due to very early days in a new coaching team's journey - attack is often the last think that clicks.
Unfortunately we've been saying that and waiting for our attack to 'click' for quite some time.... :smt017
If we'd have had the same coaching team for the last 4 years it might have clicked by now, and TBF back end of last season it wasn't too bad under Wig.
Nor the start of this season all be it at a lower standard of rugby
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Re: Tigers v Sale (H) - Premiership - Saturday 21st October 2023 KO:15:05

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My view is any "clicking" will depend on appearances at 10 by a certain H. Pollard.
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Re: Tigers v Sale (H) - Premiership - Saturday 21st October 2023 KO:15:05

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Chobbsy wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 3:32 pm
ads wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 3:26 pm
fentiger wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 3:04 pm

Unfortunately we've been saying that and waiting for our attack to 'click' for quite some time.... :smt017
If we'd have had the same coaching team for the last 4 years it might have clicked by now, and TBF back end of last season it wasn't too bad under Wig.
Nor the start of this season all be it at a lower standard of rugby
As alluded to above, lack of continuity in the coaching setup. Pretty much every regime starts with basics, set pieces, kicking and defence - apart from Pat Lam, and look how that turned out so far. Attack comes later.

Top 2 teams last season were Sarries and Sale, by a country mile, how long have their head honchos been in situ?
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