Next season Champions Cup - 2023/2024
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Next season Champions Cup - 2023/2024
Right so this is my understanding for next season’s Champions Cup
Premiership (confirmed)
Tier 1: Sale, Saracens
Tier 2: Tigers, Saints
Tier 3: London Irish, Quins
Tier 4: Exeter, Bath
URC - a bit more confusing due to the upsets in seedings, had the knockouts gone to seedings, however I think only the finalists move up so even though Connacht beat Ulster to make the semi's they drop back to table position apart from finalists
Tier 1: Munster, Stormers
Tier 2: Leinster, Ulster
Tier 3: Glasgow, Bulls
Tier 4: Connacht, Sharks
Top 14
Not yet finished
So we are in Tier 2, so our opponents are one of Tier 3.
So we will either have Glasgow or Bulls next year in the groups
Then IF the top 14 stays as is for the table AND no upsets in the knockouts it's one of Bordeaux or Lyon, but that is VERY open to change
Premiership (confirmed)
Tier 1: Sale, Saracens
Tier 2: Tigers, Saints
Tier 3: London Irish, Quins
Tier 4: Exeter, Bath
URC - a bit more confusing due to the upsets in seedings, had the knockouts gone to seedings, however I think only the finalists move up so even though Connacht beat Ulster to make the semi's they drop back to table position apart from finalists
Tier 1: Munster, Stormers
Tier 2: Leinster, Ulster
Tier 3: Glasgow, Bulls
Tier 4: Connacht, Sharks
Top 14
Not yet finished
So we are in Tier 2, so our opponents are one of Tier 3.
So we will either have Glasgow or Bulls next year in the groups
Then IF the top 14 stays as is for the table AND no upsets in the knockouts it's one of Bordeaux or Lyon, but that is VERY open to change
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Re: Next season Champions Cup - 2023/2024
Who knows at this stage. All the noise was that they're gonna drop the two megapool format.
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Re: Next season Champions Cup - 2023/2024
No they confirmed that for next season, it's the one after they are talking about dropping it.Darc Tiger wrote: ↑Mon May 15, 2023 12:42 pm Who knows at this stage. All the noise was that they're gonna drop the two megapool format.
Next season 100% is same format as this year
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Re: Next season Champions Cup - 2023/2024
There are articles from the end of March that say the format could change ahead of the 23/24 seasonTigerFeetSteve wrote: ↑Mon May 15, 2023 1:06 pmNo they confirmed that for next season, it's the one after they are talking about dropping it.Darc Tiger wrote: ↑Mon May 15, 2023 12:42 pm Who knows at this stage. All the noise was that they're gonna drop the two megapool format.
Next season 100% is same format as this year
Re: Next season Champions Cup - 2023/2024
Anyone know when the group stage line ups are announced?
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Re: Next season Champions Cup - 2023/2024
Cardiff get in ahead of the Sharks by dint of topping the Welsh conference.
The URC has 4 conferences (but a global table), play in-conference home and away, and everyone else home or away.
Doesn't seem balanced to me that it's the same number of qualifiers from the 16-team URC and the 11-team Prem.
The URC has 4 conferences (but a global table), play in-conference home and away, and everyone else home or away.
Doesn't seem balanced to me that it's the same number of qualifiers from the 16-team URC and the 11-team Prem.
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Re: Next season Champions Cup - 2023/2024
I may be wrong, but I thought this season was the first that a Welsh side didn't have a ensured place in the Champions Cup?RichieRich89 wrote: ↑Mon May 15, 2023 4:09 pm Cardiff get in ahead of the Sharks by dint of topping the Welsh conference.
The URC has 4 conferences (but a global table), play in-conference home and away, and everyone else home or away.
Doesn't seem balanced to me that it's the same number of qualifiers from the 16-team URC and the 11-team Prem.
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Re: Next season Champions Cup - 2023/2024
I could be wrong but my impression was that conference toppers getting a spot is ending next season.TigerFeetSteve wrote: ↑Mon May 15, 2023 5:00 pmI may be wrong, but I thought this season was the first that a Welsh side didn't have a ensured place in the Champions Cup?RichieRich89 wrote: ↑Mon May 15, 2023 4:09 pm Cardiff get in ahead of the Sharks by dint of topping the Welsh conference.
The URC has 4 conferences (but a global table), play in-conference home and away, and everyone else home or away.
Doesn't seem balanced to me that it's the same number of qualifiers from the 16-team URC and the 11-team Prem.
Certainly all the talk has been that the Sharks have missed out.
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Re: Next season Champions Cup - 2023/2024
Details of next season's format, which will likely change again for 24/25.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union ... xt-season/
4 pools of 6.
2 teams from each league per pool. You don't play the team from your own league. Only 4 pool matches.
Top 4 from each pool go into a straight R16 knockout format.
4 teams drop into a revamped Challenge Cup. (3 pools of 8 >>> 12+4 R16)
Number of teams in the top competition could be reduced the following year, with another reference to a 10-team Premiership.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union ... xt-season/
4 pools of 6.
2 teams from each league per pool. You don't play the team from your own league. Only 4 pool matches.
Top 4 from each pool go into a straight R16 knockout format.
4 teams drop into a revamped Challenge Cup. (3 pools of 8 >>> 12+4 R16)
Number of teams in the top competition could be reduced the following year, with another reference to a 10-team Premiership.
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Re: Next season Champions Cup - 2023/2024
Bristol will replace Irish.
Format/draw tbc 'shortly'.
Format/draw tbc 'shortly'.
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Re: Next season Champions Cup - 2023/2024
https://www.epcrugby.com/2023/06/14/202 ... announced/
4 pools of 6.
2 clubs from each league
DO NOT play the other team from your league
Only 4 seeds
Saracens (Prem winners)
Munster (URC winners)
La Rochelle (Champions Cup winners)
Toulouse/Leinster (either as Top 14 winners or if La Rochelle do the double, La Rochelle become top 14 seed & Leinster get in as Champions Cup runners up)
So ideally we want to be in Saracens group as it means we don't have to play a seed in our group.
4 pools of 6.
2 clubs from each league
DO NOT play the other team from your league
Only 4 seeds
Saracens (Prem winners)
Munster (URC winners)
La Rochelle (Champions Cup winners)
Toulouse/Leinster (either as Top 14 winners or if La Rochelle do the double, La Rochelle become top 14 seed & Leinster get in as Champions Cup runners up)
So ideally we want to be in Saracens group as it means we don't have to play a seed in our group.
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Re: Next season Champions Cup - 2023/2024
The fact there are only 4 seeds and the rest is an open draw means we could for example have our games as follows
La Rochelle H
Leinster H
Stormers A
Lyon A
(Only possible if Toulouse beat La Rochelle)
OR
Connacht H
Toulon H
Bayonne A
Cardiff A
(Only possible if drawn in the same group as Sarries)
La Rochelle H
Leinster H
Stormers A
Lyon A
(Only possible if Toulouse beat La Rochelle)
OR
Connacht H
Toulon H
Bayonne A
Cardiff A
(Only possible if drawn in the same group as Sarries)
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Re: Next season Champions Cup - 2023/2024
Draw on Wednesday
Re: Next season Champions Cup - 2023/2024
Must say I have no enthusiasm left for this competition. The only positive for me is the cash it brings in for the club.
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