England squad

[Scott1]

Don’t get the obsession with Daly.
Doesn’t tackle which means he is a liability in the centres and many tests (mainly wing/FB) are enough to show he has had enough opportunity to tackle like a test player. Makes a Varndell look like Courtney Laws.

Like a prop who can’t scrum. There again we keep picking one of those too.
For all the flash stuff you need to do the fundamentals or you are a liability in a tight game.

Spot on,Goode was the same. Fantastic club player but lacked the physicality and defence for International games and was bullied in the air. But could you imagine a Mike Brown with Goodes skill set?! We would probably be talking about an all time great!

[ay2oh]

Don’t get the obsession with Daly.
Doesn’t tackle which means he is a liability in the centres and many tests (mainly wing/FB) are enough to show he has had enough opportunity to tackle like a test player. Makes a Varndell look like Courtney Laws.

Like a prop who can’t scrum. There again we keep picking one of those too.
For all the flash stuff you need to do the fundamentals or you are a liability in a tight game.

Spot on,Goode was the same. Fantastic club player but lacked the physicality and defence for International games and was bullied in the air. But could you imagine a Mike Brown with Goodes skill set?! We would probably be talking about an all time great!

What like Steward.

[Wayne Richardson Fan Club]

The only possible position for Daly at International level should be the 23 shirt.

As for Maku....Can't Scrum, Won't Scrum....would have fitted in at Dayglo's Wasps.

[Scott1]

Don’t get the obsession with Daly.
Doesn’t tackle which means he is a liability in the centres and many tests (mainly wing/FB) are enough to show he has had enough opportunity to tackle like a test player. Makes a Varndell look like Courtney Laws.

Like a prop who can’t scrum. There again we keep picking one of those too.
For all the flash stuff you need to do the fundamentals or you are a liability in a tight game.

Spot on,Goode was the same. Fantastic club player but lacked the physicality and defence for International games and was bullied in the air. But could you imagine a Mike Brown with Goodes skill set?! We would probably be talking about an all time great!

What like Steward.

[Scott1]

If Lawes is out, Chessum at 6? Or Isiekwe?

[No6_Flanker]

If Lawes is out, Chessum at 6? Or Isiekwe?

I’d vote Chessum, and who to call up: Ribbans or Ted Hill?

[TigerFeetSteve]

If Lawes is out, Chessum at 6? Or Isiekwe?

I’d vote Chessum, and who to call up: Ribbans or Ted Hill?

I'd call up Hill, but could well be Tom Curry

[No6_Flanker]

I'd call up Hill, but could well be Tom Curry

Just because Lawes played “7” last week!

6. Chessum
7. J Willis
8. Dombrandt
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20. Earl

Looks pretty handy in the lineout, carry, and jackal.

[mol2]

Don’t get the obsession with Daly.
Doesn’t tackle which means he is a liability in the centres and many tests (mainly wing/FB) are enough to show he has had enough opportunity to tackle like a test player. Makes a Varndell look like Courtney Laws.

Like a prop who can’t scrum. There again we keep picking one of those too.
For all the flash stuff you need to do the fundamentals or you are a liability in a tight game.

Spot on,Goode was the same. Fantastic club player but lacked the physicality and defence for International games and was bullied in the air. But could you imagine a Mike Brown with Goodes skill set?! We would probably be talking about an all time great!

Thought you were referring to our former fly half for a moment!

[TigerFeetSteve]

Posted this on the Saints match thread but with Lawes out injured it will be interesting to see who Borthwick calls up.

2nd Rows in squad
J.Hill

2nd Rows who cover Back Row
Chessum
Isiekwe
Itoje

Back Rows who cover 2nd Row
Lawes - NOW INJURED

Back Rows
B. Curry
Dombrandt
Earl
Ludlam
Simmonds
J. Willis


So key options as I see it:

T.Curry
Pearson
Ribbans
T.Hill

Longer shots
Martin (if fit)
Underhill

So if he was fit and match sharp I'd say Martin as he's (currently) a like for like 6 that covers 2nd row. As it is I'm not sure any of the remaing options cover 2nd row? So if I look at the numbers I'd be tempted to give Ribbans the nod as we're tighter on numbers in the 2nd row than the back row IMO

[RunTigerRun]

Courtney Lawes (Saints) and George McGuigan (Gloucester) have withdrawn from the squad due to injury - Tom Dunn (Bath) and David Ribbans (Saints) called up to the squad.

No Ribbans for the Derby this weekend.

[TigerFeetSteve]

Courtney Lawes (Saints) and George McGuigan (Gloucester) have withdrawn from the squad due to injury - Tom Dunn (Bath) and David Ribbans (Saints) called up to the squad.

No Ribbans for the Derby this weekend.

Boooom!! Right calls and good news for us

[wormus]

Courtney Lawes (Saints) and George McGuigan (Gloucester) have withdrawn from the squad due to injury - Tom Dunn (Bath) and David Ribbans (Saints) called up to the squad.

No Ribbans for the Derby this weekend.

Boooom!! Right calls and good news for us

I am rather surprised that Harry Thacker did not get a call to replace ex Tiger George McGuigan with the England squad given his recent try scoring and lose play ~ the Dump truck!

[mol2]

Not surprised at all Thacker isn’t big enough for the grunt work in the scrum.

Like Titterall and Mears, the flash stuff in the loose is all well and good but that sort of space isn’t there at international level. That’s the role of the wing forwards and the backs.

[Hot_Charlie]

The only possible position for Daly at International level should be the 23 shirt.

And that then depends on who is in the 11 and 14 shirt, as if it's an Arundell or Freeman type, then a Guy Porter gives you better bench versatility.