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Re: Tigers post Borthwick - next Head Coach?

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Hmm not sure I think Wigglesworth would’ve put himself in the running for the head coach role.

Feel that either he or the club knows now he isn’t ready for it
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fentiger wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:01 am https://www.planetrugby.com/news/new-ze ... revelation
Puts any Robertson rumours to bed!
It's probably for the best. We'd just be in the same position as Borthwick - if he succeeded at Welford Road the NZRU would swoop in and pinch him.
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Key for me is the stylistic approach the new coach wants to take, and more importantly who else he brings in to help him deliver that, from a coaching panel point of view. We have seen close up, how Borthwick getting Walters and Sinfield helped our fitness, mental approach and defence, both structure and application. Borthwick had the lineout and maul functioning ruthlessly.
Whoever comes in needs to bring their own specialists to enable them to implement their own brand of rugby, not make do with whoever the board provide them. This would be even more important if it is Cheika, as he’ll be preoccupied initially and will need his assistants to be delivering his ethos.
I don’t know enough about who Cheika or Cotter have worked with previously/currently.
The names in the hat all have good rugby pedigree, Townsend, Cotter and Cheika have all done well at club level and then gone onto international teams. McFarland is the outlier, only one not to have coached internationally in his own right, but does have Ulster well drilled, was assistant for Scotland, and has coached Ireland A. I’d be happy with any of the above so long as the makeup of the assistant coaches is given equal importance.
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FrontRowUnionMember wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:48 am Key for me is the stylistic approach the new coach wants to take, and more importantly who else he brings in to help him deliver that, from a coaching panel point of view. We have seen close up, how Borthwick getting Walters and Sinfield helped our fitness, mental approach and defence, both structure and application. Borthwick had the lineout and maul functioning ruthlessly.
Whoever comes in needs to bring their own specialists to enable them to implement their own brand of rugby, not make do with whoever the board provide them. This would be even more important if it is Cheika, as he’ll be preoccupied initially and will need his assistants to be delivering his ethos.
I don’t know enough about who Cheika or Cotter have worked with previously/currently.
The names in the hat all have good rugby pedigree, Townsend, Cotter and Cheika have all done well at club level and then gone onto international teams. McFarland is the outlier, only one not to have coached internationally in his own right, but does have Ulster well drilled, was assistant for Scotland, and has coached Ireland A. I’d be happy with any of the above so long as the makeup of the assistant coaches is given equal importance.
I don't see Vern Cotter's coaching pedigree as being that great, out of the three above he would be my less favoured
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The RFU and Steve Borthwick have stripped the club of our coaching assets and I bet he also took the 12 foot step ladder too! :smt013
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Tigersunited wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:14 am Rassie :smt038
Rassie :smt038
Rassie :smt038
Rassie :smt018
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Robespierre wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:58 am
Tigersunited wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:14 am Rassie :smt038
Rassie :smt038
Rassie :smt038
Rassie :smt018
Always in the pooh? is that you or Rassie?
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Chobbsy wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 9:00 am
Robespierre wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:58 am
Tigersunited wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:14 am Rassie :smt038
Rassie :smt038
Rassie :smt038
Rassie :smt018
Always in the pooh? is that you or Rassie?
Me, but only up to my knees!
Rassis's in it up to his neck!
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Robespierre wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 9:02 am
Chobbsy wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 9:00 am
Robespierre wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:58 am

Rassie :smt018
Always in the pooh? is that you or Rassie?
Me, but only up to my knees!
Rassis's in it up to his neck!
Rassie normally needs a snorkel
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Robespierre wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 9:02 am
Chobbsy wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 9:00 am
Robespierre wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:58 am

Rassie :smt018
Always in the pooh? is that you or Rassie?
Me, but only up to my knees!
Rassis's in it up to his neck!
Handstand?

Teabreak’s over, back on your heads!
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wormus wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:58 am The RFU and Steve Borthwick have stripped the club of our coaching assets and I bet he also took the 12 foot step ladder too! :smt013
Get a grip, man! The ladder is still here. I saw it at the last game! :smt003
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The ladder is the new head coach, no?
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honestly I'm not so sure that the "no transition" rules people like Townsend out, to me it just read as we aren't going to keep appointing interim solutions and coaches who wont be around for long
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Tigersunited wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:14 am Rassie
Rassie
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Out :smt019
Out :smt013
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Why oh why is it always us who keep getting the dirty end of the stick? :smt022
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