Excellent post Scuttle. Unfortunately once he made his choice, and not to do so would have been fool hardy from his pov, he was always taking his team with him.Scuttle wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 5:30 pmBorthwick was on a trajectory for the top job, which was forshortened by the EJ sacking. Interestingly I actually agree with both the main points being put forward.sapajo wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 4:30 pm Unfortunately choices always have consequences. In the case of Borthwick choosing to leave our club to be England Coach its our club and its supporters who are now suffering those consequences.
That said I appreciate that some folk may view these as positive consequences
I fully understand why he chose to take the opportunity now; to do otherwise could have closed the door forever knowing how clueless the RFU are.
However, I use the word "chose" deliberately because it was his choice and he will have known the consequences of him leaving when he did, and taking Sinfield with him, and rumoured taking Walters and Wigglesworth too. He chose to do it in full knowledge he could be taking the core of the senior Tigers coaching staff out of the club, when the club has little chance of replacing them in an orderly way.
So join me on the fence and look both ways!!
As to whether he is up to the job, I have no more idea other than the qualities he has shown with us.......not the same job as England Head Coach though. I do think he will be judged by the WC because he has left us hastily and has a full 6 Nations to go at. He will have alot more prep time and a more settled coaching team for the WC than our incoming head coach will have for next season.
Edit...all the above does not mean I am happy about the situation
I also agree with your other points, maintaining our coaching team would have been preferable, and is he the right fit for a top international job only time will tell