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Re: Tigers post Borthwick - next Head Coach?

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sapajo wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:28 am
Wayne Richardson Fan Club wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:33 pm Either the RFU have only just come for WW or our CEO lied to Radio Leicester.
I believe we were told porkies
Interesting, what makes you say that? Inside info?
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loretta wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 9:21 am
Robespierre wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 9:02 am
Chobbsy wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 9:00 am

Always in the pooh? is that you or Rassie?
Me, but only up to my knees!
Rassis's in it up to his neck!
Handstand?

Teabreak’s over, back on your heads!

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Seriously though, I get he puts himself front and centre, a bit like Mourinho - takes the focus away from the players. He has a fantastic pedigree, we assume others
Mentioned are ‘in the hat’ and really have no idea if they are, why wouldn’t he be in our thoughts??
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Chobbsy wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:57 am
FrontRowUnionMember wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:48 am Key for me is the stylistic approach the new coach wants to take, and more importantly who else he brings in to help him deliver that, from a coaching panel point of view. We have seen close up, how Borthwick getting Walters and Sinfield helped our fitness, mental approach and defence, both structure and application. Borthwick had the lineout and maul functioning ruthlessly.
Whoever comes in needs to bring their own specialists to enable them to implement their own brand of rugby, not make do with whoever the board provide them. This would be even more important if it is Cheika, as he’ll be preoccupied initially and will need his assistants to be delivering his ethos.
I don’t know enough about who Cheika or Cotter have worked with previously/currently.
The names in the hat all have good rugby pedigree, Townsend, Cotter and Cheika have all done well at club level and then gone onto international teams. McFarland is the outlier, only one not to have coached internationally in his own right, but does have Ulster well drilled, was assistant for Scotland, and has coached Ireland A. I’d be happy with any of the above so long as the makeup of the assistant coaches is given equal importance.
I don't see Vern Cotter's coaching pedigree as being that great, out of the three above he would be my less favoured
Vern Cotter at the point he left Scotland was their most successful coach of the professional era, a fan petition was started to try and get the SRU to reverse their decision and keep him.

As Crusaders forwards coach he was there for a couple of Super Rugby titles.

At Clermont he at one point had a 77 game undefeated home record and in the 07-08 season they won 20 of 26 games. Only one trophy but a lot of finals playing some good rugby.

With Montpellier it didn't work out (rarely does there for some reason) but he did get to another Top14 final though they lost to Castres.

He's maybe not got the most stellar resumé but it's a damn good one.
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What's the rabbit population like in the Leicestershire countryside?
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wigworth wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 2:36 pm What's the rabbit population like in the Leicestershire countryside?
I thought we were talking about Vern, Warren has now started with Wales so too late for him.
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wigworth wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 2:36 pm What's the rabbit population like in the Leicestershire countryside?
Do you think we need to pull one out of a hat? :smt017
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Tigersunited wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:13 pm
sapajo wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:28 am
Wayne Richardson Fan Club wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:33 pm Either the RFU have only just come for WW or our CEO lied to Radio Leicester.
I believe we were told porkies
Interesting, what makes you say that? Inside info?
Just the fact that Pinchen stated on RL that WW had been set zero targets and he would be in considered for the permanent position of HC . Now Tigers have said WW is off and Pinchen has stated publicly that somehow WW is committed to finishing this season successfully. What ever the heck that means? It simply does not add upto me
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kpj tiger wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 10:24 am honestly I'm not so sure that the "no transition" rules people like Townsend out, to me it just read as we aren't going to keep appointing interim solutions and coaches who wont be around for long
I sincerely hope so its no coincidence that the likes of Sarries, Chiefs and Leinster have had the same HC for many seasons
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sapajo wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 3:16 pm
Tigersunited wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:13 pm
sapajo wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:28 am

I believe we were told porkies
Interesting, what makes you say that? Inside info?
Just the fact that Pinchen stated on RL that WW had been set zero targets and he would be in considered for the permanent position of HC . Now Tigers have said WW is off and Pinchen has stated publicly that somehow WW is committed to finishing this season successfully. What ever the heck that means? It simply does not add upto me
It means you know literally nothing about what’s been going on at Tigers.

Two weeks ago you were confidently predicting that the club would screw the fans over by forcing Wiggy on us, on the cheap. That is quite clearly not the case.

Cotter, Cheika, Townsend, Lancaster, McFarland. All names linked to us by credible sources. All fantastic choices with decent CV’s & top quality coaches. If tigers land one of them, they’ve done well.

The conspiracy theory that Tigers will do all it can to appoint Wiggy has now proven to be false. You should have some decency to apologise.
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Things seem to be changing daily, so peoples opions change as well. Last night I said I though Middleton was coming, Today I think it's Chieka....

I don't believe anyone need to apologies, it's a pretty emotive time for Tigers fans.
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ads wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 3:40 pm Things seem to be changing daily, so peoples opions change as well. Last night I said I though Middleton was coming, Today I think it's Chieka....

I don't believe anyone need to apologies, it's a pretty emotive time for Tigers fans.
Cotter (of the realistic ones) seems to me the only viable one of the quality needed. TBH I am losing hope.
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ads wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 3:40 pm Things seem to be changing daily, so peoples opions change as well. Last night I said I though Middleton was coming, Today I think it's Chieka....

I don't believe anyone need to apologies, it's a pretty emotive time for Tigers fans.
I have zero issues with people not wanting Wiggy or preferring another candidate. I for one have been one of them.

Sapajo & others have pushed a borderline conspiracy theory that the club would deliberately choose the cheapest option because the “fan base is punch drunk on success”.

That is nonsense. It has now proven to be nonsense.
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Just received a WhatsApp message from No 2 son stating that after a successful period at Leicester Tigers, Welford will be joining the England set up as official team mascot.

It is hoped that his enthusiasm in inspiring the Tigers crowd to cheer their team to victory will be carried forward into the international arena.
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AViewFromLe2 wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 3:48 pm
ads wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 3:40 pm Things seem to be changing daily, so peoples opions change as well. Last night I said I though Middleton was coming, Today I think it's Chieka....

I don't believe anyone need to apologies, it's a pretty emotive time for Tigers fans.
I have zero issues with people not wanting Wiggy or preferring another candidate. I for one have been one of them.

Sapajo & others have pushed a borderline conspiracy theory that the club would deliberately choose the cheapest option because the “fan base is punch drunk on success”.

That is nonsense. It has now proven to be nonsense.
I'm just saying that Matt O'Connor is currently a free agent, avaliable now, and knows the club.

Just saying.

Just. Saying.

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