Next England Head Coach (Pre World Cup)

[Rugbygramps]

There’s no point picking an exciting back line with Farrell at 10.

You’ve obviously not seen Sarries play this season then

yes I have seen Sarries play but attacking wise Farrell is not in the same league as smith or Ford plus his composure is suspect and is a yellow card waiting to happen. There’s n point having speedy wingers when the ball is just kicked away.

Agree to disagree he probably has the best all round game of the 3 of them IMO and their wingers fullback have been getting plenty of ball. His composure is down to him and his team not reaching required standards, as in their game v Irish, and this yellow card thing is becoming less likely. But his name is Farrell and he plays for Saracens so a lot of peoples view is already slanted

[Scott1]

You’ve obviously not seen Sarries play this season then

yes I have seen Sarries play but attacking wise Farrell is not in the same league as smith or Ford plus his composure is suspect and is a yellow card waiting to happen. There’s n point having speedy wingers when the ball is just kicked away.

Agree to disagree he probably has the best all round game of the 3 of them IMO and their wingers fullback have been getting plenty of ball. His composure is down to him and his team not reaching required standards, as in their game v Irish, and this yellow card thing is becoming less likely. But his name is Farrell and he plays for Saracens so a lot of peoples view is already slanted

Ford has the best all round game out of the 3 of them at his best imo

[LE18]

How about JVP, Atkinson, Watson, Kelly, Porter, Potter, Steward?

[Scott1]

All joking aside, if Kelly and Porter keep this up Borths is gonna have to seriously consider starting them both against Scotland outside Farrell and JVP.

[No6_Flanker]

All joking aside, if Kelly and Porter keep this up Borths is gonna have to seriously consider starting them both against Scotland outside Farrell and JVP.

I genuinely think this is part of the plan, they’ve started every game together that Kelly has been fit for, after Eddie was sacked!

[ay2oh]

yes I have seen Sarries play but attacking wise Farrell is not in the same league as smith or Ford plus his composure is suspect and is a yellow card waiting to happen. There’s n point having speedy wingers when the ball is just kicked away.

Agree to disagree he probably has the best all round game of the 3 of them IMO and their wingers fullback have been getting plenty of ball. His composure is down to him and his team not reaching required standards, as in their game v Irish, and this yellow card thing is becoming less likely. But his name is Farrell and he plays for Saracens so a lot of peoples view is already slanted

Ford has the best all round game out of the 3 of them at his best imo

Agree with you Scott (surprise, surprise) Ford is best all round of the 3 and Farrell can only dream of some passes Ford makes

[Wayne Richardson Fan Club]

If you had a kick for the RWC though I think I would prefer Farrell to Ford.

Ford has to get on a pitch first to be considered.

I don't particularly mind Farrell playing 10 its 12 that causes no end of issues for England, but if England are going to play "Borthwick Ball" then Ford is the best option at 10, he is the best tactical kicker of the present options.

[sam16111986]

There’s no point picking an exciting back line with Farrell at 10.

You’ve obviously not seen Sarries play this season then

Did you see them against LI last weekend though? Attack was dreary and Farrell awful. Even against 12 at one point they couldn't make a two man advantage count.

[Rugbygramps]

There’s no point picking an exciting back line with Farrell at 10.

You’ve obviously not seen Sarries play this season then

Did you see them against LI last weekend though? Attack was dreary and Farrell awful. Even against 12 at one point they couldn't make a two man advantage count.

Oh come on Sam you’re better than looking at one game, how bout them Tigers v Bath and Bristol.
Yes they were poor but they are still 10 points ahead of the field. Be interesting to see how they bounce back this weekend against Exeter when they are likely to be without Itoje, McFarland and Earl.

[Tigerbeat]

London Irish are no mugs and certainly contained a good Saracens side….some praise must go to them!

[sam16111986]

You’ve obviously not seen Sarries play this season then

Did you see them against LI last weekend though? Attack was dreary and Farrell awful. Even against 12 at one point they couldn't make a two man advantage count.

Oh come on Sam you’re better than looking at one game, how bout them Tigers v Bath and Bristol.
Yes they were poor but they are still 10 points ahead of the field. Be interesting to see how they bounce back this weekend against Exeter when they are likely to be without Itoje, McFarland and Earl.

Yes it's only one game but it's the most recent game. Farrell is very capable of playing more attacking rugby than he's given credit for but he very much still has limitations, more so than the average international flyhalf. Borthwick was at that game, I doubt very much it's the impression Farrell wanted to give him. Given the fitness of the other two contenders Farrell is in pole position but a couple more stinkers like that and Ford recovering and showing some form could see a swift change around.

[westwinds31]

Did you see them against LI last weekend though? Attack was dreary and Farrell awful. Even against 12 at one point they couldn't make a two man advantage count.

Oh come on Sam you’re better than looking at one game, how bout them Tigers v Bath and Bristol.
Yes they were poor but they are still 10 points ahead of the field. Be interesting to see how they bounce back this weekend against Exeter when they are likely to be without Itoje, McFarland and Earl.

Yes it's only one game but it's the most recent game. Farrell is very capable of playing more attacking rugby than he's given credit for but he very much still has limitations, more so than the average international flyhalf. Borthwick was at that game, I doubt very much it's the impression Farrell wanted to give him. Given the fitness of the other two contenders Farrell is in pole position but a couple more stinkers like that and Ford recovering and showing some form could see a swift change around.

Either way, I predict we’ll be 2 from 2 going to Cardiff, players who we thought were on the verge will be rejuvenated and we’ll look organised defensively.

[Scott1]

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