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Re: LEICESTER TIGERS 2022/23 - Prisoner of Oadby Pre-Season

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Scott1 wrote: Fri Feb 03, 2023 7:25 pm
TTRITH wrote: Fri Feb 03, 2023 6:48 pm OHC would be our first choice winger, followed by Potter, Bassett and then either another new signing or one or two of Murimurivelu, Saumaki or Ashton.
Yes,if he signed our back 3 would be OHC,Steward,Potter
Depends if Watson stays. Obviously with Bassett and OHC it's unlikely but that's a nice headache
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Re: LEICESTER TIGERS 2022/23 - Prisoner of Oadby Pre-Season

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TigerFeetSteve wrote: Fri Feb 03, 2023 8:49 pm
Scott1 wrote: Fri Feb 03, 2023 7:25 pm
TTRITH wrote: Fri Feb 03, 2023 6:48 pm OHC would be our first choice winger, followed by Potter, Bassett and then either another new signing or one or two of Murimurivelu, Saumaki or Ashton.
Yes,if he signed our back 3 would be OHC,Steward,Potter
Depends if Watson stays. Obviously with Bassett and OHC it's unlikely but that's a nice headache
Yes ,forgot about Watson! But Potter is too good to leave out ,great headache though!
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Re: LEICESTER TIGERS 2022/23 - Prisoner of Oadby Pre-Season

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Scott1 wrote: Fri Feb 03, 2023 9:04 pm
TigerFeetSteve wrote: Fri Feb 03, 2023 8:49 pm
Scott1 wrote: Fri Feb 03, 2023 7:25 pm

Yes,if he signed our back 3 would be OHC,Steward,Potter
Depends if Watson stays. Obviously with Bassett and OHC it's unlikely but that's a nice headache
Yes ,forgot about Watson! But Potter is too good to leave out ,great headache though!
Recently I think that Potter has been a bit blinkered/selfish with the ball. One of the things OHC has really worked on is being a provider as well as a finisher.
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Re: LEICESTER TIGERS 2022/23 - Prisoner of Oadby Pre-Season

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I think recently Potter has not had much room to work with getting the ball close to the touch online with a drift defence coming at him that have not been pinned in to defend and straight running in midfield. He then runs back infield a bit and can get tackled, if he does not score. No one inside him has any more space so keeping the ball, going to ground and letting the other players come in to secure it at the ruck is probably the best option. Quick wide passes can be good but they do not pin defences. We need some more midfield moves to provide space. Welford road narrow pitch does make things a bit harder to find space for running play without some midfield deception or inside shoulder running lines.
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Re: LEICESTER TIGERS 2022/23 - Prisoner of Oadby Pre-Season

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No6_Flanker wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 1:27 am
Scott1 wrote: Fri Feb 03, 2023 9:04 pm
TigerFeetSteve wrote: Fri Feb 03, 2023 8:49 pm

Depends if Watson stays. Obviously with Bassett and OHC it's unlikely but that's a nice headache
Yes ,forgot about Watson! But Potter is too good to leave out ,great headache though!
Recently I think that Potter has been a bit blinkered/selfish with the ball. One of the things OHC has really worked on is being a provider as well as a finisher.
He’s also provided some of our rare bits of joy too iirc
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Re: LEICESTER TIGERS 2022/23 - Prisoner of Oadby Pre-Season

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TigerFeetSteve wrote: Fri Feb 03, 2023 5:12 pm
Hot_Charlie wrote: Fri Feb 03, 2023 2:03 pm
sam16111986 wrote: Fri Feb 03, 2023 9:30 am

Ashton almost definitely. We've also lost Nadolo which should cover the recruitment of OHC.

Saumaki, will depend on what he's like at training and what offers he has on the table. I suspect he's fairly cheap and seems a quiet and humble bloke. Could be a good squad man to retain as we don't have wingers coming through the academy. Ditto Murimurivalu, though he also brings a shedload of experience and has been mentioned as bringing a feel good factor in camp.
As opposed to squad slots and money, it's the fact you're be trying to recruit two players who almost exclusively play in the same position and are used to starting for their current (Premiership) clubs.
OHC is an out and out starter, not sure you can say the same for Bassett, certainly behind Lynaugh & Murley
Bassett was nailed on starter before Wasps went bust... last season he either started every PR match (23 of them) or wasn't selected at all.

Since arriving at Quins he's missed two PR matches (debuting in R8 but missing R9 and R10m, but ever present since) and missed the away trip to Racing. Yes they've got injuries, but Quins like him in the 11 shirt, and tend to fill the 14 and 15 shirt around him.

As for Lynagh, he was one of the injuries that meant Quins recruited Bassett and hasn't played at all this season.
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Re: LEICESTER TIGERS 2022/23 - Prisoner of Oadby Pre-Season

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Scott1 wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 10:38 am
No6_Flanker wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 1:27 am
Scott1 wrote: Fri Feb 03, 2023 9:04 pm
Yes ,forgot about Watson! But Potter is too good to leave out ,great headache though!
Recently I think that Potter has been a bit blinkered/selfish with the ball. One of the things OHC has really worked on is being a provider as well as a finisher.
He’s also provided some of our rare bits of joy too iirc
I think Potter is very good. Sometimes I just wish he would pin his ears back and go for the corner. On occasion he cuts back in when there would appear to be space to run an outside line and score. I know that's easy to say from the stands where I get a wider picture of space but , I would still like him to back his pace more.
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Re: LEICESTER TIGERS 2022/23 - Prisoner of Oadby Pre-Season

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Scuttle wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 11:10 am
Scott1 wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 10:38 am
No6_Flanker wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 1:27 am

Recently I think that Potter has been a bit blinkered/selfish with the ball. One of the things OHC has really worked on is being a provider as well as a finisher.
He’s also provided some of our rare bits of joy too iirc
I think Potter is very good. Sometimes I just wish he would pin his ears back and go for the corner. On occasion he cuts back in when there would appear to be space to run an outside line and score. I know that's easy to say from the stands where I get a wider picture of space but , I would still like him to back his pace more.
Not much between Potter and Bassett in my opinion but Hassell-Collins is another level.
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Re: LEICESTER TIGERS 2022/23 - Prisoner of Oadby Pre-Season

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ay2oh wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 11:16 am
Scuttle wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 11:10 am
Scott1 wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 10:38 am
He’s also provided some of our rare bits of joy too iirc
I think Potter is very good. Sometimes I just wish he would pin his ears back and go for the corner. On occasion he cuts back in when there would appear to be space to run an outside line and score. I know that's easy to say from the stands where I get a wider picture of space but , I would still like him to back his pace more.
Not much between Potter and Bassett in my opinion but Hassell-Collins is another level.
Crazy talk imo! If I'm picking my XV Potter is in over Bassett every day and twice on a Sunday!
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Re: LEICESTER TIGERS 2022/23 - Prisoner of Oadby Pre-Season

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Bassett is a good club player. I don’t see him as a first choice pick when selecting from a full fit squad but injuries and England means he will likely get lots of starts!
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mol2 wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 10:40 am Bassett is a good club player. I don’t see him as a first choice pick when selecting from a full fit squad but injuries and England means he will likely get lots of starts!
And from what I've seen, he won't let us down
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Re: LEICESTER TIGERS 2022/23 - Prisoner of Oadby Pre-Season

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mol2 wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 10:40 am Bassett is a good club player. I don’t see him as a first choice pick when selecting from a full fit squad but injuries and England means he will likely get lots of starts!
Great Post,very good squad player!
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Re: LEICESTER TIGERS 2022/23 - Prisoner of Oadby Pre-Season

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While we've not got a game I've updated my guesses at those to be leaving. Focusing on the main movers in this list from the last one I pulled together.


Confirmed leaving:

Likely leaving:
Hosea Saumaki
Chris Ashton (retiring)
Joe Taufete'e
Sam Wolstenholme
Mike Brown

50:50 leaving:
Cam Henderson
Francois Van Wyk
Anthony Watson
Eli Snyman
Nephi Leatigaga

Possibly leaving, but unlikely:
Tommy Reffell
Jasper Wiese
Jimmy Gopperth (retiring to coach)


Sam Wolstenholme has moved up as Whiteley was announced as long term.

Mike Brown wasn't on the list before, was announced as short term, with the likes of Shilcock coming in I doubt he'll stay past this season (he may not even stay past the 6N if both Watson & Steward come back unscathed)

With some extensions announced and no Cam Henderson in that list it concerns me... He last joined us 3 years ago. The below article says he joined on a 3 year contract (although Tigers don't announce contract lengths) Hatherell joining too suggests probably him or Snyman are off, personally I'd love to see him stay with us and really hope we keep him!
https://www.theoffsideline.com/cameron- ... er-tigers/

All of the bottom 3 I'd now say are highly unlikely to leave not just unlikely.
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Wiese said that he was signed up till June 2024….so here next season.
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Re: LEICESTER TIGERS 2022/23 - Prisoner of Oadby Pre-Season

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Wigglesworth said Reffell and Wiese didn’t need extensions this season.

If Reffell got a contract change with no announcement, nothing to say Henderson hasn’t either
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