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Who is Paul Wheeler please?
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Scuttle wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 12:48 pm Who is Paul Wheeler please?
Something to do with Coventry Ladies and radio I believe
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Scott1 wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 12:50 pm
Scuttle wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 12:48 pm Who is Paul Wheeler please?
Something to do with Coventry Ladies and radio I believe
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Rugbygramps wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 12:39 pm Like others I’m not a financial expert, but if they have applied for a CVA it will mean their ability to trade with existing suppliers will be affected, and new companies will not touch them with the proverbial pole.
Don’t doubt that Scott’s information is correct.
CVA meaning - If your limited company is insolvent, it can use a Company Voluntary Arrangement ( CVA ) to pay creditors over a fixed period. If creditors agree, your limited company can continue trading.
Does not look good if creditors do not agree.
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A CVA is what is commonly referred to as "going into administration".

It involves appointing an administrator to come in and run your business to maximise returns to the secured debtors while seeing if there is a viable business under the hood.

There is no viable business under Wasps hood, so it would be a very bad thing.

It would invoke RFU regulation 5, which gives the RFU broad powers to approve their finances, set their budgets & RFU regulations make a phoenix company extremely hard to do. The regulations make pretty clear that relegation is the consequence too.

It's a massive rumour and I think spread by football fans who don't realise the difference in regulations make it a bigger event in rugby than it would be in football (though still massive in football too).
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Scuttle wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 12:48 pm Who is Paul Wheeler please?
Works for BBC Coventry
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Some suggest on unoffy that this was a mix up when somebody Googled Wasps and CVA with York Wasps rugby league team that did go bust with a CVA. That did certainly happen. We will see if it also happens to London Wasps.
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Offside wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:35 pm Some suggest on unoffy that this was a mix up when somebody Googled Wasps and CVA with York Wasps rugby league team that did go bust with a CVA. That did certainly happen. We will see if it also happens to London Wasps.
Certainly possible but not sure why the bloke from Radio Coventry would be tweeting if that is the case.
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Rugbygramps wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 8:21 pm
Offside wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:35 pm Some suggest on unoffy that this was a mix up when somebody Googled Wasps and CVA with York Wasps rugby league team that did go bust with a CVA. That did certainly happen. We will see if it also happens to London Wasps.
Certainly possible but not sure why the bloke from Radio Coventry would be tweeting if that is the case.
So, is the message that if you want to stay financially viable, don’t call your side Wasps?
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https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sport ... s-24747475

Derek Richardson has come out and denied they have file a CVA
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Why Wasps picked Coventry over Birmingham is one of the biggest fails imo
Birmingham Population 1.49 million
Coventry Population 379K

Prem rugby clubs within 30 miles of the city
Birmingham 1 Worcester
Coventry 2 Saints and Tigers

Moseley was really keen on the idea of Wasps coming over
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RagingBull wrote: Sat Aug 13, 2022 9:17 am Why Wasps picked Coventry over Birmingham is one of the biggest fails imo
Birmingham Population 1.49 million
Coventry Population 379K

Prem rugby clubs within 30 miles of the city
Birmingham 1 Worcester
Coventry 2 Saints and Tigers

Moseley was really keen on the idea of Wasps coming over
I assume they picked Coventry because of the sweetheart deal they got over the stadium complex.
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Old Hob wrote: Sat Aug 13, 2022 11:23 am
RagingBull wrote: Sat Aug 13, 2022 9:17 am Why Wasps picked Coventry over Birmingham is one of the biggest fails imo
Birmingham Population 1.49 million
Coventry Population 379K

Prem rugby clubs within 30 miles of the city
Birmingham 1 Worcester
Coventry 2 Saints and Tigers

Moseley was really keen on the idea of Wasps coming over
I assume they picked Coventry because of the sweetheart deal they got over the stadium complex.
Exactly. 5k seat stadium at Moseley or 30k stadium with additional earning capabilities from the site in Coventry. The Coventry stadium having been designed to be easy access from the road networks. Plus Moseley being the landlord would have meant paying to somebody else where as Coventry City were always likely to return giving Wasps a football league tenant.

Covid really hammered Wasps, they didn't have the years of previous stability to fall back on like we and others did.
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They were losing £500k per month pre covid. I don't think it really changed much to be honest.
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Apologies if this has been covered already, but I’ve just seen this:-

https://www.ruck.co.uk/over-1m-of-stars ... -continue/
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