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Re: England Squad for down under

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Biyi Alo was the Wasps THP that Gengie marmalised and was eventually penalised for boring.
I am surprised - he must just be cannon fodder for the squad :smt011
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wormus wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 10:48 pm Biyi Alo was the Wasps THP that Gengie marmalised and was eventually penalised for boring.
I am surprised - he must just be cannon fodder for the squad :smt011
Let's be fair. This squad probably has a few players who aren't even in the top half dozen when an actual squad is announced. There's at least 5 or 6 ahead of him in a normal squad.
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Hot_Charlie wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 10:35 am
wormus wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 10:48 pm Biyi Alo was the Wasps THP that Gengie marmalised and was eventually penalised for boring.
I am surprised - he must just be cannon fodder for the squad :smt011
Let's be fair. This squad probably has a few players who aren't even in the top half dozen when an actual squad is announced. There's at least 5 or 6 ahead of him in a normal squad.
Yes,harsh to say,but this squad is meaningless until after the SF/finals take place.
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wormus wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 10:48 pm Biyi Alo was the Wasps THP that Gengie marmalised and was eventually penalised for boring.
I am surprised - he must just be cannon fodder for the squad :smt011
You’re right but with Sinclair unavailable the other 2 tight heads along with Stewart are likely to be Heyes and Collier both of who are in the semis
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Rugbygramps wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 10:39 am
wormus wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 10:48 pm Biyi Alo was the Wasps THP that Gengie marmalised and was eventually penalised for boring.
I am surprised - he must just be cannon fodder for the squad :smt011
You’re right but with Sinclair unavailable the other 2 tight heads along with Stewart are likely to be Heyes and Collier both of who are in the semis
Marcus Street would’ve been a much better shout
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SA squad for Wales visit

Springboks squad

Forwards: Thomas du Toit (Cell C Sharks), Steven Kitshoff (DHL Stormers), Vincent Koch (Saracens), Frans Malherbe (DHL Stormers), Ntuthuko Mchunu (Cell C Sharks), Ox Nche (Cell C Sharks), Trevor Nyakane (Racing 92), Joseph Dweba (Bordeaux), Malcolm Marx (Kubota Spears), Bongi Mbonambi (Cell C Sharks), Lood de Jager (Sale Sharks), Eben Etzebeth (Cell C Sharks), Salmaan Moerat (DHL Stormers), Ruan Nortje (Vodacom Bulls), Marvin Orie (DHL Stormers), Pieter-Steph du Toit (Toyota Verblitz), Marcell Coetzee (Vodacom Bulls), Siya Kolisi (Cell C Sharks), Elrigh Louw (Vodacom Bulls), Evan Roos (DHL Stormers), Kwagga Smith (Yamaha Júbilo), Jasper Wiese (Leicester Tigers), Rynhardt Elstadt (Toulouse), Deon Fourie (DHL Stormers), Franco Mostert (Honda Heat).

Backs: Faf de Klerk (Sale Sharks), Jaden Hendrikse (Cell C Sharks), Herschel Jantjies (DHL Stormers), Grant Williams (Cell C Sharks), Johan Goosen (Bulls), Elton Jantjies (NTT Docomo Red Hurricanes), Handre Pollard (Montpellier Herrault), Lukhanyo Am (Cell C Sharks), Damian de Allende (Munster), Andre Esterhuizen (Harlequins), Jesse Kriel (Cannon Eagles), Aphelele Fassi (Sharks), Warrick Gelant (Stormers), Cheslin Kolbe (Toulon), Willie le Roux (Toyota Verblitz,), Makazole Mapimpi (Cell C Sharks, Kurt-Lee Arendse (Bulls), Damian Willemse (Stormers).
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Scott1 wrote: Sat Jun 11, 2022 7:23 pm SA squad for Wales visit

Springboks squad

Forwards: Thomas du Toit (Cell C Sharks), Steven Kitshoff (DHL Stormers), Vincent Koch (Saracens), Frans Malherbe (DHL Stormers), Ntuthuko Mchunu (Cell C Sharks), Ox Nche (Cell C Sharks), Trevor Nyakane (Racing 92), Joseph Dweba (Bordeaux), Malcolm Marx (Kubota Spears), Bongi Mbonambi (Cell C Sharks), Lood de Jager (Sale Sharks), Eben Etzebeth (Cell C Sharks), Salmaan Moerat (DHL Stormers), Ruan Nortje (Vodacom Bulls), Marvin Orie (DHL Stormers), Pieter-Steph du Toit (Toyota Verblitz), Marcell Coetzee (Vodacom Bulls), Siya Kolisi (Cell C Sharks), Elrigh Louw (Vodacom Bulls), Evan Roos (DHL Stormers), Kwagga Smith (Yamaha Júbilo), Jasper Wiese (Leicester Tigers), Rynhardt Elstadt (Toulouse), Deon Fourie (DHL Stormers), Franco Mostert (Honda Heat).

Backs: Faf de Klerk (Sale Sharks), Jaden Hendrikse (Cell C Sharks), Herschel Jantjies (DHL Stormers), Grant Williams (Cell C Sharks), Johan Goosen (Bulls), Elton Jantjies (NTT Docomo Red Hurricanes), Handre Pollard (Montpellier Herrault), Lukhanyo Am (Cell C Sharks), Damian de Allende (Munster), Andre Esterhuizen (Harlequins), Jesse Kriel (Cannon Eagles), Aphelele Fassi (Sharks), Warrick Gelant (Stormers), Cheslin Kolbe (Toulon), Willie le Roux (Toyota Verblitz,), Makazole Mapimpi (Cell C Sharks, Kurt-Lee Arendse (Bulls), Damian Willemse (Stormers).
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Australia squad

Forwards: Dave Porecki, Lachlan Lonergan, Folau Fainga'a, Taniela Tupou, Scott Sio, Allan Alaalatoa, Pone Fa'amausili, James Slipper, Angus Bell, Matt Philip, Jed Holloway, Nick Frost, Cadeyrn Neville, Darcy Swain, Michael Hooper (captain), Pete Samu, Harry Wilson, Rob Valetini, Rob Leota

Backs: Nic White, Tate McDermott, Jake Gordon, Quade Cooper, James O'Connor, Noah Lolesio, Samu Kerevi, Hunter Paisami, Izaia Perese, Len Ikitau, Marika Koroibete, Andrew Kellaway, Tom Banks, Suliasi Vunivalu, Tom Wright, Jordan Petaia
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Danny Care to go to Oz if Ben decides not to
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Scott1 wrote: Sun Jun 12, 2022 3:20 pm Danny Care to go to Oz if Ben decides not to
How many more chances do you give someone to demonstrate he hasn’t got it at international level?
Can’t control a game. Totally different to harem-scared stuff at club level, may look good and impress the London press but has played enough times to be clear that England would be better off taking JVP or the Sale youngster to gain experience that might see them become a permanent selection.
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mol2 wrote: Sun Jun 12, 2022 3:39 pm
Scott1 wrote: Sun Jun 12, 2022 3:20 pm Danny Care to go to Oz if Ben decides not to
How many more chances do you give someone to demonstrate he hasn’t got it at international level?
Can’t control a game. Totally different to harem-scared stuff at club level, may look good and impress the London press but has played enough times to be clear that England would be better off taking JVP or the Sale youngster to gain experience that might see them become a permanent selection.
Quirke is confirmed out injured.
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The Care, Smith,Dombrandt connection will help though. Although I agree with his game management,or lack of!
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Whispers are Ford isn’t going to Oz!
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NZ squad for Ireland tests

New Zealand squad: Beauden Barrett, Jordie Barrett, Scott Barrett, George Bower, Sam Cane (capt), Finlay Christie, Caleb Clarke, Dane Coles, Jack Goodhue, Leicester Fainga’anuku, Folau Fakatava, David Havili, Akira Ioane, Reiko Ioane, Will Jordan, Nepo IRLLaulala, Josh Lord, Richie Mo’unga, Dalton Papalii, Stephen Perofeta, Sevu Reece, Brodie Retallick, Aidan Ross, Ardie Savea, Aaron Smith, Hoskins Sotutu, Pita Gus Sowakula, Samisoni Taukei’aho, Codie Taylor, Angus Ta’avao, Roger Tuivasa-Sheck, Karl Tu’inukuafe, Quinn Tupaea, Ofa Tuungafasi, Sam Whitelock, Tupo Vaa’i.
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mol2 wrote: Sun Jun 12, 2022 3:39 pm
Scott1 wrote: Sun Jun 12, 2022 3:20 pm Danny Care to go to Oz if Ben decides not to
How many more chances do you give someone to demonstrate he hasn’t got it at international level?
Can’t control a game. Totally different to harem-scared stuff at club level, may look good and impress the London press but has played enough times to be clear that England would be better off taking JVP or the Sale youngster to gain experience that might see them become a permanent selection.
Disagree! Care was never the best starting scrum half, but Youngs starting and Care off the bench I thought always worked. Eddie should’ve never dropped him for the last World Cup! Feel that Youngs, Care and Spencer were our 3 best scrum halves and always mad 2 never got a look in.

Good Eng squad to be fair, loads of talent 6-15.
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