Simon Cohen leaves with immediate effect
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Re: Simon Cohen leaves with immediate effect
Quite surprised to say the least.Never went with the personal abuse he took along with his family and I guess many are now going to be quite happy.
Wish him all the best , the same goes for Andrea Pinchen , his successor.
Wish him all the best , the same goes for Andrea Pinchen , his successor.
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Re: Simon Cohen leaves with immediate effect
You sometimes see CEOs give a year or more notice, and an immediate departure might be cause for concern.
Here I suspect, Cohen probably had planned to go at the “end of the season” and the uncertainty over when and indeed if the season will end has caused this to be brought forward.
Best wishes to him.
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BBC Link and brief Chris Egerton analysis :
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/52626387
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/52626387
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Re: Simon Cohen leaves with immediate effect
Agree with all you say Teds, it is just the timing of it all that seems a little odd to me, but maybe I’m just a grumpy old cynic.teds wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 8:51 amYou sometimes see CEOs give a year or more notice, and an immediate departure might be cause for concern.
Here I suspect, Cohen probably had planned to go at the “end of the season” and the uncertainty over when and indeed if the season will end has caused this to be brought forward.
Best wishes to him.
Anyway best of luck Simon I’m sure there will be many that will need your hard nosed pragmatism when we reach some form of normality
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I don't claim any inside knowledge, and like most on here, can only speculate. However, there are two recent events which one assumes SC, as CEO, had major roles in, and neither of which have gone well to say the least. The failed sale of the Club and the botched imposition of players' salary cuts. Neither of these have done anything for the reputation of the Club (and probably incurred significant financial costs for the non-sale).
It certainly appears that Peter Tom has had to do a lot of work to get the players 'on side' with the cuts, and maybe this was the final straw?
Also, perhaps the recent changes to the Board have seen some of SC's support disappear?
Who knows if we will ever be told?
One things for sure - in the absence of rugby, the Club has given us plenty to muse over during this weird time. Vive la revolution!
It certainly appears that Peter Tom has had to do a lot of work to get the players 'on side' with the cuts, and maybe this was the final straw?
Also, perhaps the recent changes to the Board have seen some of SC's support disappear?
Who knows if we will ever be told?
One things for sure - in the absence of rugby, the Club has given us plenty to muse over during this weird time. Vive la revolution!
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Includes the following quotation:kk20gb30 wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 8:55 am BBC Link and brief Chris Egerton analysis :
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/52626387
Cohen's departure was "in the context of the challenges presented by Covid-19", said chairman Peter Tom.
Not sure if I completely buy that but perhaps it saves doing too much dirty laundry in public.
Re: Simon Cohen leaves with immediate effect
Interesting analysis:
“ BBC Radio Leicester's Tigers commentator Chris Egerton
This is potentially the most significant sign of change at Welford Road this summer.
While his period as chief executive preceded the club's last Premiership title in 2013, Cohen's experience in salary cap management and hard-nosed style have been seen as assets within Welford Road.
He has often carried the can for decisions taken higher up and has become a lightning rod for criticism of the Tigers' decline since 2013 - even though he has been at Welford Road since 2005. He even suffered death threats last season.
But, in recent years, a convoluted management structure has developed above coaching level and a hire-them, fire-them culture has developed towards coaches and players.
It's something Leicester - and Cohen - have wanted to move away from and his departure represents the cleanest break of all, as they attempt to climb the table once more.”
I have met SC on a number of occasions and his commitment to the club was total. I think that the sentence above which says that he “carried the can for decisions taken higher up” says it all. He disliked the chop and change of coaches, the Slater/Burns deal, all of which spoke of bad business processes and ethics.
The limp Covid 19 reason for his departure says more about those “higher up” than it does about SC.
Those who blamed him for all the faults might perhaps like to have a rethink, and utter a quiet apology.
“ BBC Radio Leicester's Tigers commentator Chris Egerton
This is potentially the most significant sign of change at Welford Road this summer.
While his period as chief executive preceded the club's last Premiership title in 2013, Cohen's experience in salary cap management and hard-nosed style have been seen as assets within Welford Road.
He has often carried the can for decisions taken higher up and has become a lightning rod for criticism of the Tigers' decline since 2013 - even though he has been at Welford Road since 2005. He even suffered death threats last season.
But, in recent years, a convoluted management structure has developed above coaching level and a hire-them, fire-them culture has developed towards coaches and players.
It's something Leicester - and Cohen - have wanted to move away from and his departure represents the cleanest break of all, as they attempt to climb the table once more.”
I have met SC on a number of occasions and his commitment to the club was total. I think that the sentence above which says that he “carried the can for decisions taken higher up” says it all. He disliked the chop and change of coaches, the Slater/Burns deal, all of which spoke of bad business processes and ethics.
The limp Covid 19 reason for his departure says more about those “higher up” than it does about SC.
Those who blamed him for all the faults might perhaps like to have a rethink, and utter a quiet apology.
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It does make sense though in the context of the general refresh of the board. If SC was going to move on soon anyway, doing it now to save the club some salary costs in the coming months makes sense.Longshanks wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 11:09 amIncludes the following quotation:kk20gb30 wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 8:55 am BBC Link and brief Chris Egerton analysis :
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/52626387
Cohen's departure was "in the context of the challenges presented by Covid-19", said chairman Peter Tom.
Not sure if I completely buy that but perhaps it saves doing too much dirty laundry in public.
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The revolving door nature of coaching and management appointments in recent years leading to the downward spiral of the clubs fortunes, can only be tolerated for so long before someone in a senior position has to accept responsibility.
Add to that the rather top heavy nature of that management structure at a time of extreme financial pressure and it is not to long before one of those positions becomes untenable. You cannot keep several high paid senior managers (especially unsuccessful ones) in position whilst asking other staff to take pay cuts.
Therefore whilst I do not think Covid 19 is the reason for his departure, I do believe it is a contributing factor
Add to that the rather top heavy nature of that management structure at a time of extreme financial pressure and it is not to long before one of those positions becomes untenable. You cannot keep several high paid senior managers (especially unsuccessful ones) in position whilst asking other staff to take pay cuts.
Therefore whilst I do not think Covid 19 is the reason for his departure, I do believe it is a contributing factor
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Not surprised at all. The abysmal performance of the last few years must stop. Necessary changes to the coaching structure have been made but the coaches did not make all the decisions so it is only right that there must be changes at the top whether this is the only change time will tell but the abject performances must stop else we will be playing the third division north.
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Good article from Charlie Morgan in the Torygraph:
"Both McGinity and Murphy will hope that things finally settle under Borthwick with the Tigers’ youth system now realigned. If they do, and good times gradually return, Cohen might just be due more credit."
"Both McGinity and Murphy will hope that things finally settle under Borthwick with the Tigers’ youth system now realigned. If they do, and good times gradually return, Cohen might just be due more credit."
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I think Cohen leaves with more on the Credit than debit side.
Would agree we seemed to have 3 people 2 chairs & he lost out, it's the immediate departure that is the slightly odd part.
It is of course time for someone to be seen to be carrying the can for our near past performance who isn't in playing kit.
Peter Tom was only going to be the one if the club had been sold.
Would agree we seemed to have 3 people 2 chairs & he lost out, it's the immediate departure that is the slightly odd part.
It is of course time for someone to be seen to be carrying the can for our near past performance who isn't in playing kit.
Peter Tom was only going to be the one if the club had been sold.
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Third Division Midlands not North surely? Not that I agree with you though.nasher wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 1:03 pm Not surprised at all. The abysmal performance of the last few years must stop. Necessary changes to the coaching structure have been made but the coaches did not make all the decisions so it is only right that there must be changes at the top whether this is the only change time will tell but the abject performances must stop else we will be playing the third division north.
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But isn’t the third division Midlands then sub divided into north and south or is it east and westTigerBoy1880 wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 2:25 pmThird Division Midlands not North surely? Not that I agree with you though.nasher wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 1:03 pm Not surprised at all. The abysmal performance of the last few years must stop. Necessary changes to the coaching structure have been made but the coaches did not make all the decisions so it is only right that there must be changes at the top whether this is the only change time will tell but the abject performances must stop else we will be playing the third division north.