Players asked to take pay cuts!

[sk 88]

Andrea Pinchen May have kept some people happy with her interview, the legal representatives of Manu amongst them. By naming the players who had not accepted the revised remuneration packages, she may have breached confidentiality clauses.

This could be very expensive for the club who may be ordered to pay damages as well as making up the salary difference for players who find work elsewhere.

Simon Cohen would not have made this mistake. Who advised Andrea on the finer points of contract law?

If they want to go down this route, Tigers will jump all over the player who leaked privileged information to The Mail 5 minutes after the conversation, who Andrea did not name.

It makes me smile all the internet lawyers who think Tigers will not have consulted their legal team before making any statements, but the players will have done
Come on ladies and gents let’s use some common sense

Players and their leaking is one thing. The chief executive making it public is another. The Times quotes a leading employment law specialist making the point I have repeated. He’s not an internet lawyer, and neither am I. Simon Cohen is a contract law specialist.

If only he'd stayed as that.

[Tiglon]

I doubt that any player contract has a confidentiality clause that protects against the employer announcing that an employee has not agreed a new contract. Day in, day out, you read in the news that sportsperson X has not agreed a new contract and I'm pretty sure the clubs don't get sued for it...

The media are clutching at straws to sell a few more advertising clicks from this subject, take it with a pinch of salt.

The lawyer quoted in the Times benefits from agreeing to say something "newsworthy". He may be a real lawyer, but he doesn't have access to Tigers' contracts so he is merely speculating.

[Tiglon]

https://www.rugbypass.com/news/the-six- ... er-tigers/

"RugbyPass has learned that all Leicester Tigers’ salaries were capped at £250,000 a player with the exception of George Ford, who is understood to be on circa £320,000. England prop Ellis Genge, who agreed to a new contract, undertook the biggest cut of any player to sign a new contract at the club."

Probably worth saying thanks to all the players who have taken large pay cuts for the good of the club - I'm sure they wouldn't have done it unless they thought it was best for them too, but I think we should be grateful nonetheless.

Imagine the kind of money Genge could have earned in France for two years before coming back to England in time for the next World Cup.

[Traveller]

If they want to go down this route, Tigers will jump all over the player who leaked privileged information to The Mail 5 minutes after the conversation, who Andrea did not name.

It makes me smile all the internet lawyers who think Tigers will not have consulted their legal team before making any statements, but the players will have done
Come on ladies and gents let’s use some common sense

Players and their leaking is one thing. The chief executive making it public is another. The Times quotes a leading employment law specialist making the point I have repeated. He’s not an internet lawyer, and neither am I. Simon Cohen is a contract law specialist.

If only he'd stayed as that.

[Scott1]

https://www.rugbypass.com/news/the-six- ... er-tigers/

"RugbyPass has learned that all Leicester Tigers’ salaries were capped at £250,000 a player with the exception of George Ford, who is understood to be on circa £320,000. England prop Ellis Genge, who agreed to a new contract, undertook the biggest cut of any player to sign a new contract at the club."

Probably worth saying thanks to all the players who have taken large pay cuts for the good of the club - I'm sure they wouldn't have done it unless they thought it was best for them too, but I think we should be grateful nonetheless.

Imagine the kind of money Genge could have earned in France for two years before coming back to England in time for the next World Cup.

That's changes things significantly when it comes to Manu if true,that's a 50% cut not 25%.

[Tiglon]

https://www.rugbypass.com/news/the-six- ... er-tigers/

"RugbyPass has learned that all Leicester Tigers’ salaries were capped at £250,000 a player with the exception of George Ford, who is understood to be on circa £320,000. England prop Ellis Genge, who agreed to a new contract, undertook the biggest cut of any player to sign a new contract at the club."

Probably worth saying thanks to all the players who have taken large pay cuts for the good of the club - I'm sure they wouldn't have done it unless they thought it was best for them too, but I think we should be grateful nonetheless.

Imagine the kind of money Genge could have earned in France for two years before coming back to England in time for the next World Cup.

That's changes things significantly when it comes to Manu if true,that's a 50% cut not 25%.

According to the article it was still a 25% pay cut on offer for Manu, if he had agreed he would have joined Ford in being paid more than £250k.

[RagingBull]

But as the Rugby Paper said Players had the chance to claw 50% of their lost earnings later.

[Scott1]

https://www.rugbypass.com/news/the-six- ... er-tigers/

"RugbyPass has learned that all Leicester Tigers’ salaries were capped at £250,000 a player with the exception of George Ford, who is understood to be on circa £320,000. England prop Ellis Genge, who agreed to a new contract, undertook the biggest cut of any player to sign a new contract at the club."

Probably worth saying thanks to all the players who have taken large pay cuts for the good of the club - I'm sure they wouldn't have done it unless they thought it was best for them too, but I think we should be grateful nonetheless.

Imagine the kind of money Genge could have earned in France for two years before coming back to England in time for the next World Cup.

That's changes things significantly when it comes to Manu if true,that's a 50% cut not 25%.

According to the article it was still a 25% pay cut on offer for Manu, if he had agreed he would have joined Ford in being paid more than £250k.

Oh I see,thanks.

[Tiglon]

But as the Rugby Paper said Players had the chance to claw 50% of their lost earnings later.

If the club becomes profitable, as I understand it. That's a big "if".

If I were one of the players I wouldn't see much value in that part of the offer. It's like being promised a bonus for achieving something that you cannot control, and the people who can control it (the board) are in certain circumstances now incentivised not to achieve it.

[RagingBull]

If the club becomes profitable, as I understand it. That's a big "if".

If I were one of the players I wouldn't see much value in that part of the offer. It's like being promised a bonus for achieving something that you cannot control, and the people who can control it (the board) are in certain circumstances now incentivised not to achieve it.

Well it's better than not having it?
Considering that only a handful of player in the squad now earn over 300K the 250K cap won't affect as many players as Rugby Pass is suggesting.

also are you sure it's profitable? I read it as back generating sustainable revenue.

[Scott1]

Just picked this up
"Some of the sale players allegedly received late night visits from dimes the evening before the deadline to sign. Reports of solidarity at the AJ Bell are much exaggerated apparently."

[Tiglon]

If the club becomes profitable, as I understand it. That's a big "if".

If I were one of the players I wouldn't see much value in that part of the offer. It's like being promised a bonus for achieving something that you cannot control, and the people who can control it (the board) are in certain circumstances now incentivised not to achieve it.

Well it's better than not having it?
Considering that only a handful of player in the squad now earn over 300K the 250K cap won't affect as many players as Rugby Pass is suggesting.

also are you sure it's profitable? I read it as back generating sustainable revenue.

That's how I understood it, I am not sure though. I've seen it described differently in different sources. Either way, you're right it's better than not having it.

[JP14]

Just picked this up
"Some of the sale players allegedly received late night visits from dimes the evening before the deadline to sign. Reports of solidarity at the AJ Bell are much exaggerated apparently."

Not really surprising, is it?

[fentiger]

Just picked this up
"Some of the sale players allegedly received late night visits from dimes the evening before the deadline to sign. Reports of solidarity at the AJ Bell are much exaggerated apparently."

...and to think they are describing Steve Borthwick as The Prince of Darkness...

[Tiglon]

Whatever they did, it appears to have worked because they didn't lose anyone. Even if a few players a bit grumpy about it, it's still a success.