Gloucester vs Tigers

[ourla]

Not sure what everyone was expecting to be honest.

How Cipriani isn't in the England squad is anyone's guess.

For us to get a result tonight a few things had to go our way and a few things against Gloucester. But the opposite happened.

Funny how the love for Murphy as dissipated so quickly.

Personally I'm not concerned. We've a good crop of younger players that will get better as they gain experience and with the magic dust internationals and injured players coming back we could be a good team.

I don't know how much influence Murphy will have on recruitment going forward but for sure it's not his squad at the minute.

[jgriffin]

Not sure what everyone was expecting to be honest.

How Cipriani isn't in the England squad is anyone's guess.

For us to get a result tonight a few things had to go our way and a few things against Gloucester. But the opposite happened.

Funny how the love for Murphy as dissipated so quickly.

Personally I'm not concerned. We've a good crop of younger players that will get better as they gain experience and with the magic dust internationals and injured players coming back we could be a good team.

I don't know how much influence Murphy will have on recruitment going forward but for sure it's not his squad at the minute.

Fascinating that you were slated for being a pessimist, and when you maintain a realistic perspective all the nellies are flapping their wrists and binning tickets and talking rowlocks about hotels. We got what was expected with our 2nds against Glaws 1sts marshalled by a wally that should be England's 10. Get real, and well said Ourla

[Tomvarndell]

Tonight’s game means absolutely nothing regarding where we are at the moment. It’s a farce that the game was even staged. How were we supposed to even compete away from home given who we are missing. Take the best fly half in England out of any side and they’d be hit hard. Throw in a world class scrum half, a world class 13 and quite possibly the best winger in Europe and anybody with half a brain would acknowledge the back line might struggle a tad. However , there seems plenty who don’t see this as an excuse.

[CitizenSmiff]

Tonight's performance was an utter disaster but let's all bear in mind how good our squad could be if they ever got a chance to play together. Genge, Spencer, Denton, Thompson (poor guy), Manu, Youngs, Ford, May, Toomua, Polota-Nau, Veainu, Holmes, O'Connor, that's a massive quantity of talent sadly unavailable at the moment. We'll be OK, this ship will right itself, and with Newcastle struggling so badly in the league at least we won't go down!

[Traveller]

I too have nothing but administration for the referee.

I two have notification but administration for the referee

[Wayne Richardson Fan Club]

Wrong selection, predictable result......

We need a balanced forward pack next week & to start with Hardwick, he isn't really ready yet but he is miles better than JF, imho Murphy bottled the selection.

We used to prosper during international periods as the squad players really stood up, doesn't happen anymore, we could do with players like the Deacon brothers in the squad.

Its time the captaincy was sorted out, OTY can still be a leader on the pitch but not the skipper.

[JP14]

We scored a try that shouldn’t have been a try, long time since one of those.

[ellis9]

Wrong selection, predictable result......

We need a balanced forward pack next week & to start with Hardwick, he isn't really ready yet but he is miles better than JF, imho Murphy bottled the selection.

We used to prosper during international periods as the squad players really stood up, doesn't happen anymore, we could do with players like the Deacon brothers in the squad.

Its time the captaincy was sorted out, OTY can still be a leader on the pitch but not the skipper.

So what team would you have picked?

[G.K]

Oh dear, oh dear just more of the same I'm afraid. Easily beaten by Glos'. Can't see any sign of a turn around, odd blip here and there over the season maybe but probably no playoffs again this year.

[sapajo]

No disgrace in defeat especially against such strong opposition and with so many absent through call ups and injury. But the simple fact remains that Tigers are still struggling with all the basics of rugby, ie passing, tackling, the line out and our kicking game.
This concerns me as Geordan has been our skills coach for many seasons and the fact that its not his squad is irrelevant in this regard.

[wellstiger]

No excuses.....The result was predictable bearing in mind how Glouc have been building. They have a world class leader in Cipps
and confidence should see them in the play offs.

We however are on a downward spiral. When do we thank Thompstone, Owen T, Youngs and Cole for their services and move on.
Its not as though they could be described as impact players. Sell by date, used by date and costing us by stupid penalties.

Olefewela is young and was made to work hard by an old boy in Bannerman and quite rightly What a learning curve.
Who was there to support him!!!!
Our kicking is killing us. It seams to be permeating to every player in the squad. Do we have a kicking coach? Is this their directive.?

Glouc benefited by having a fuller squad but that's what happens in the international break. Do we have the ability to make up ground on their rteturn????????

[Wayne Richardson Fan Club]

Wrong selection, predictable result......

We need a balanced forward pack next week & to start with Hardwick, he isn't really ready yet but he is miles better than JF, imho Murphy bottled the selection.

We used to prosper during international periods as the squad players really stood up, doesn't happen anymore, we could do with players like the Deacon brothers in the squad.

Its time the captaincy was sorted out, OTY can still be a leader on the pitch but not the skipper.

So what team would you have picked?

A side without our entire quota of 2nd rows for a start, Hardwick @10.
I wasn't expecting us to win, but at least compete, every game we are giving our opponents a massive headstart, that seriously needs addressing.

We need fresh voices on the coaching side with no Tigers past, as a club we should be looking at Steve Hansen post RWC, we are a massive name in club rugby, we should have one of the best coaches/leaders, Deano's success was created by Bob Dwyer we need a similar figure to change course, if you let it continue to drift its even harder to get back to the top, look at Liverpool in football as a prime example.

[WiggoTiger]

Wiggo Tiger, have you ever refereed a rugby match, your comments suggest you haven't but I await your enlightened reply.

Yes I have, alas only at school boy level. But put in to the scrum was ALWAYS straight.

[BigDan50]

We may be a massive club in term of ground capacity but we are no longer a massive club in terms of results and that is why we will struggle in terms of recruitment of players and coaching.
When rugby went professional we were the richest club around and able to recruit the best players and pay the highest salaries.
There are richer clubs than us and as money talks players will migrate to these clubs who can pay better salaries.
Sadly Tigers don't attract the best players these days.

[sam16111986]

We however are on a downward spiral. When do we thank Thompstone, Owen T, Youngs and Cole for their services and move on.
Its not as though they could be described as impact players. Sell by date, used by date and costing us by stupid penalties.

Olefewela is young and was made to work hard by an old boy in Bannerman and quite rightly What a learning curve.
Who was there to support him!!!!
Our kicking is killing us. It seams to be permeating to every player in the squad. Do we have a kicking coach? Is this their directive.?

Cole was one of our best players last night. He's by far the best scrummaging tighthead in the league and if we were dumb enough to invite him to leave he would receive a monstrous contract to play in France. Bateman on the other hand was next to useless conceding penalties at the scrum and then looking casual round the park.

Thompstone did look slow last night which is a real shame as I like him but he got gassed several times. Owen is a serviceable squad centre.

Owolofela did alright against Banahan and pulled off a great try saving tackle. He's not the finished article but he's 20 so there's plenty of time.

Joe Ford has to go. Everything is sideways, he doesn't run forward and engage the defence and stands so deep that the opposition get a nice run up to smash the poor sod he passes to. It's only thanks to Eastmond our backs had any creation.

Fitzgerald played ok when he came on but the loss of Thompstone was definitely felt. Having three/four locks on the field did nothing for our mobility and ability to contest the breakdown. Have to have one of Reffell or Evans on the bench.