Leicester - the 'friendly' team????

[jgriffin]

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Not a spin any of us have put on it, but I can certainly agree we have become too 'friendly' recently to most opposition.

[rocktop51]

Friendly as a family club is one thing but friendly meaning soft is another. The team need to get some round spherical objects and develop a ruthless instinct

[fleabane]

The board are too friendly with too many employees. A family culture is one thing, constantly sticking together when something needs to be done is another.

No trophies for three years? Is that good enough? Making the playoffs is a step towards winning the competition, not an end in itself, which is what the coaches and players seem to think it is.

In our case friendly = failure to achieve.

[SIBARITE]

The board are too friendly with too many employees. A family culture is one thing, constantly sticking together when something needs to be done is another.

No trophies for three years? Is that good enough? Making the playoffs is a step towards winning the competition, not an end in itself, which is what the coaches and players seem to think it is.

In our case friendly = failure to achieve.

+1. "And Richard Cockerill was really quite friendly at the end of a third concession of 30 points already this season" Sounds a bit like 'Theres a bit of a party atmosphere here at Bath.........." Hypocrisy or blind to his own shortcommings?

[Snorbins]

And the thread couldn't go any further than 4 without the snipe at Cockers!

[Roly]

And the thread couldn't go any further than 4 without the snipe at Cockers!

To be fair, the team have let in an average of 25 points (including 3 tries) per match so far this season under his tenure.

Short of sending chummy invites out to the opposition, it does seem rather friendly to me. Even some of the staunchest supporters are starting to question the coaching staff now....

[tigerburnie]

3 whingers and a troll don't exactly make for a majority of anyones opinion do they?
Players are getting to grips with the changes and the results reward where we are, in the top 4 after a handful of games.
Every year we get the same old whinges from the same people and every year we turn round, a now traditional slow start into an exciting race for the line.
Pot hunters are always going to find something to whinge about, hoping to bask in the reflected glories of others hard work without actually doing anything themselves.
Being a fan of any sports team has it's ups and downs, as I have said before, we ain't the Harlem Globetrotters bringing our own pet referees to each game.

[Roly]

3 whingers and a troll don't exactly make for a majority of anyones opinion do they?
Players are getting to grips with the changes and the results reward where we are, in the top 4 after a handful of games.
Every year we get the same old whinges from the same people and every year we turn round, a now traditional slow start into an exciting race for the line.
Pot hunters are always going to find something to whinge about, hoping to bask in the reflected glories of others hard work without actually doing anything themselves.
Being a fan of any sports team has it's ups and downs, as I have said before, we ain't the Harlem Globetrotters bringing our own pet referees to each game.

And this makes their opinion less valid because?

[ourla]

The board are too friendly with too many employees. A family culture is one thing, constantly sticking together when something needs to be done is another.

I disagree fundamentally with this. Sir Alex of Man U for example was well known for knowing everybody from the tea lady to the CEO and looking after them. Of course he also expected them to work hard and do their job. That is the sort of environment managers should cultivate. You can't stick together with people your not friends with and have no empathy for.

No trophies for three years? Is that good enough?

I've not heard anyone say that the last three years have been good enough. Have you?

Making the playoffs is a step towards winning the competition, not an end in itself, which is what the coaches and players seem to think it is.

Do they really? Is that what you believe?

Tigers record of getting to the play offs is both a matter of pride and a curse. It's set as the bar below which we can not fall and as a result takes on a mantle of achievement. We as fans are as much a part of that as the board, coaching and playing staff. But I am sure we are all aware as well that it 's just that - the minimum requirement. And not a cause for mass celebration and it doesn't mean job done.

[ourla]

"And Richard Cockerill was really quite friendly at the end of a third concession of 30 points already this season"

No idea what you are banging on about here. In what way was he friendly? Who was he friendly to? Should he have gone into the Sale clubhouse and trashed the joint?

[SIBARITE]

"And Richard Cockerill was really quite friendly at the end of a third concession of 30 points already this season"

No idea what you are banging on about here. In what way was he friendly? Who was he friendly to? Should he have gone into the Sale clubhouse and trashed the joint?

How does it go? Fools rush in where Angels....... You should read the OP who quoted The Guardian article.

[ourla]

"And Richard Cockerill was really quite friendly at the end of a third concession of 30 points already this season"

No idea what you are banging on about here. In what way was he friendly? Who was he friendly to? Should he have gone into the Sale clubhouse and trashed the joint?

How does it go? Fools rush in where Angels....... You should read the OP who quoted The Guardian article.

Your quote was from the article so you were highlighting it. I don't get what the quote was alluding to or why you were highlighting it. And you are relating it to something Cockerill said after the Bath semi defeat season before last. Why, and why was it hypocritical?

[Iain]

It is perfectly reasonable and rational to be critical of our defence this season. It's been substandard - the empirical evidence of this doesn't lie.

The irrational bit is the knee jerk demands for job losses without any explanation as to how this will fix things.

[Roly]

It is perfectly reasonable and rational to be critical of our defence this season. It's been substandard - the empirical evidence of this doesn't lie.

The irrational bit is the knee jerk demands for job losses without any explanation as to how this will fix things.

There's a difference between losing your job and resigning. When you recognise that you've failed despite your own best efforts, or have taken the business as far as it will go under your tenure, then resignation should come before the inevitable board-room firing. Resigning carries with it so much more dignity....