In what world was the Gopperth incident not a red card!?

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In what world was the Gopperth incident not a red card!?

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Late, off the pitch, eyes off the ball, jumping at the player, leading with his elbow, connected to the head.

Wigglesworth even took the opportunity to have the TMO look at it and had a good look himself. That he only deemed it worthy of a yellow card is incredible. I'm really not sure how much worse it was supposed to be before it was deemed a red card offence. Absolutely stunning ineptitude.
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Iain wrote:Late, off the pitch, eyes off the ball, jumping at the player, leading with his elbow, connected to the head.

Wigglesworth even took the opportunity to have the TMO look at it and had a good look himself. That he only deemed it worthy of a yellow card is incredible. I'm really not sure how much worse it was supposed to be before it was deemed a red card offence. Absolutely stunning ineptitude.
think he left just enough doubt to get a yellow, can he still be cited?
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I suspect the citing commissioner might want to have a look.
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Jimmy Skitz wrote:
Iain wrote:Late, off the pitch, eyes off the ball, jumping at the player, leading with his elbow, connected to the head.

Wigglesworth even took the opportunity to have the TMO look at it and had a good look himself. That he only deemed it worthy of a yellow card is incredible. I'm really not sure how much worse it was supposed to be before it was deemed a red card offence. Absolutely stunning ineptitude.
think he left just enough doubt to get a yellow, can he still be cited?
He can, and I assume he will.
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I think Wigglesworth erred on the side of caution, if he's not totally sure he really shouldn't send someone off
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Jimmy Skitz wrote:I think Wigglesworth erred on the side of caution, if he's not totally sure he really shouldn't send someone off
I would assume so. But then this begs the question of how much he needed to be sure?
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Iain wrote:
Jimmy Skitz wrote:I think Wigglesworth erred on the side of caution, if he's not totally sure he really shouldn't send someone off
I would assume so. But then this begs the question of how much he needed to be sure?
I think the straightening of his arm save him, had he left it bent he would have gone
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I have no doubt at all that this was a red card offence - jumping into a player with the elbow leading into the face is a red- end of any arguements and if the citing officer doesn't take a look at it and cite him then there is something wrong
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trendylfj wrote:I have no doubt at all that this was a red card offence - jumping into a player with the elbow leading into the face is a red- end of any arguements and if the citing officer doesn't take a look at it and cite him then there is something wrong
+1. This has passed my bias test; I imagine that the offender and the offended are in different shirts.
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Wiggles worth used to suffer from indecision, now he just can't make his b****y mind up :smt017
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fentiger wrote:Wiggles worth used to suffer from indecision, now he just can't make his b****y mind up :smt017
Are you sure about that? :smt003

Red card IMO. The old "Oh well, the citing officer will set the record straight afterwards" defence is a cop-out.

Hypothetically, what if Gopperth had kicked the winning DG or penalty?

Maybe World rugby will come out and say Wigglesworth was wrong........
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Apparently a Citing Officer was at the game, not sure whether that is a regular thing?
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Replay in full for anyone in any doubt.

http://vid01.bt.co.uk/v1/bc/pd/25039795 ... 034001.mp4
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I stand on the terrace, to the west of the half way line, and when it first happened I thought that it was a yellow. I changed my mind when I viewed it on the screen from a different angle, and in absolutely no doubt at all that it was red.
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drc_007 wrote:I suspect the citing commissioner might want to have a look.
Which is exactly why he bottled the decision. I haven't watched it back but it'll be interesting to hear the TMO's direction - a good example was Sean Davey when JP Doyle only wanted to give Hartley's elbow a yellow last year.
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