Jasper's ban

[trendylfj]

was it really a 6 match ban action?

[Tiglon]

I guess it's the intentional and unnecessary nature of it, and head to floor with force.

Hard to defend.

[TigerFeetSteve]

I think 6 match is the minimum ban for that action, and with previous red cards even though the most recent is 3 years ago, I'm guessing he wasn't eligible for a discount

[sk 88]

The hearing document talks about 4 bans including this one & "an additional" ban for totting up.

I make it 2 red cards, 1 citing dismissed & the totting up ban. So where is the extra suspension it mentions? They don't deign to list the previous in the hearing notes.

[TigerFeetSteve]

The hearing document talks about 4 bans including this one & "an additional" ban for totting up.

I make it 2 red cards, 1 citing dismissed & the totting up ban. So where is the extra suspension it mentions? They don't deign to list the previous in the hearing notes.

I thought he had 2 reds at Cheetahs before he joined us and then one vs Wasps (may be wrong though)

[Hot_Charlie]

The hearing document talks about 4 bans including this one & "an additional" ban for totting up.

I make it 2 red cards, 1 citing dismissed & the totting up ban. So where is the extra suspension it mentions? They don't deign to list the previous in the hearing notes.

I thought he had 2 reds at Cheetahs before he joined us and then one vs Wasps (may be wrong though)

Close. One red in SA, the red vs Wasps and then the ban for cumulative foul play yellow cards (3 yellows in fairly quick succession for foul play being effectively upgraded to a red).

[Hot_Charlie]

I think 6 match is the minimum ban for that action, and with previous red cards even though the most recent is 3 years ago, I'm guessing he wasn't eligible for a discount

I think his problem with that is he's had one "clean" season, and that was last season. The three yellows was in 21/22.

So only 22/23 has been "good" for the record.

[TigerFeetSteve]

The hearing document talks about 4 bans including this one & "an additional" ban for totting up.

I make it 2 red cards, 1 citing dismissed & the totting up ban. So where is the extra suspension it mentions? They don't deign to list the previous in the hearing notes.

I thought he had 2 reds at Cheetahs before he joined us and then one vs Wasps (may be wrong though)

Close. One red in SA, the red vs Wasps and then the ban for cumulative foul play yellow cards (3 yellows in fairly quick succession for foul play being effectively upgraded to a red).

Found it...

He had one red in a cheetahs game vs Cardiff


He had another incident vs Ulster in feb 2020 where he was cited again (it was only 3 matches after his ban from the cardiff)... so wasn't given a red but did get even a yellow in the match, but was cited and he got a ban, so that's why the citing panel talked about 4 bans in his past.

1 red for Cheetahs vs Cardiff
1 citing post match Cheetahs vs Ulster
1 red for Tigers vs Wasps
1 ban for accumulated yellows last Tigers vs Bristol

https://www.sarugbymag.co.za/cheetahs-w ... ban-again/

[sk 88]

I thought he had 2 reds at Cheetahs before he joined us and then one vs Wasps (may be wrong though)

Close. One red in SA, the red vs Wasps and then the ban for cumulative foul play yellow cards (3 yellows in fairly quick succession for foul play being effectively upgraded to a red).

Found it...

He had one red in a cheetahs game vs Cardiff


He had another incident vs Ulster in feb 2020 where he was cited again (it was only 3 matches after his ban from the cardiff)... so wasn't given a red but did get even a yellow in the match, but was cited and he got a ban, so that's why the citing panel talked about 4 bans in his past.

1 red for Cheetahs vs Cardiff
1 citing post match Cheetahs vs Ulster
1 red for Tigers vs Wasps
1 ban for accumulated yellows last Tigers vs Bristol

https://www.sarugbymag.co.za/cheetahs-w ... ban-again/

Cheers.

[Hot_Charlie]

I thought he had 2 reds at Cheetahs before he joined us and then one vs Wasps (may be wrong though)

Close. One red in SA, the red vs Wasps and then the ban for cumulative foul play yellow cards (3 yellows in fairly quick succession for foul play being effectively upgraded to a red).

Found it...

He had one red in a cheetahs game vs Cardiff


He had another incident vs Ulster in feb 2020 where he was cited again (it was only 3 matches after his ban from the cardiff)... so wasn't given a red but did get even a yellow in the match, but was cited and he got a ban, so that's why the citing panel talked about 4 bans in his past.

1 red for Cheetahs vs Cardiff
1 citing post match Cheetahs vs Ulster
1 red for Tigers vs Wasps
1 ban for accumulated yellows last Tigers vs Bristol

https://www.sarugbymag.co.za/cheetahs-w ... ban-again/

Thanks Steve.

I think that's a good example of "not a very good disciplinary record"!

[Rugbygramps]

Question for the knowledgeable. If South Africa don’t pick him for their summer tests squad would the ban carry over to his new club, as he won’t have missed any fixtures that he was eligible for selection for

[TigerFeetSteve]

Question for the knowledgeable. If South Africa don’t pick him for their summer tests squad would the ban carry over to his new club, as he won’t have missed any fixtures that he was eligible for selection for

My understanding is that providing there is some paperwork somewhere to suggest he "would have been" selected had he not been banned it is sufficient....

[Rugbygramps]

Question for the knowledgeable. If South Africa don’t pick him for their summer tests squad would the ban carry over to his new club, as he won’t have missed any fixtures that he was eligible for selection for

My understanding is that providing there is some paperwork somewhere to suggest he "would have been" selected had he not been banned it is sufficient....

Thank you