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Steward’s place is pretty safe now then!!
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aslongaswebeatsaints wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:31 pm
Leicestertinytiger wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:12 pm Anyone else disappointed by George as Captain. Zero leadership on the pitch.
Nope. Just you…. :smt009
Not saying he’s a bad player. He’s been my starting no.2 he just never engages with the ref, talks to the players, barks out orders.
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3/10 for me,very poor. Shocking coaching ,schoolboy errors. Awful all round. Borths out of his depth ,no progress since Jones at all.
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Scott1 wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:32 pm
Greenwhiteandred wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:32 pm
Leicestertinytiger wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:30 pm

If things don’t get better he won’t make the next WC.
Slightly knee jerk reaction 😂
Not at all,have we moved forwards post Jones? Er,nope
Scotland were far more clinical. England don’t have any area of dominance. Their attack is poor. Midfield is still a huge area of concern- Ford was very bad and the Furbank experiment an error in judgement. Daly needs to come out of the team as a matter of urgency.
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Scott1 wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:32 pm
Greenwhiteandred wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:32 pm
Leicestertinytiger wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:30 pm

If things don’t get better he won’t make the next WC.
Slightly knee jerk reaction 😂
Not at all,have we moved forwards post Jones? Er,nope
We won’t make the next WC eg qualify ….. massively knee jerk. I’m not saying we’ve been poor and SB’s selections haven’t worked but we will qualify for the next WC so it’s a completely knee jerk comment that’s laughable
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Scott1 wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:35 pm 3/10 for me,very poor. Shocking coaching ,schoolboy errors. Awful all round. Borths out of his depth ,no progress since Jones at all.
:smt038 SB is certainly not the future to make this England team anything special again!!
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All the backs were poor, they look like they are a scratch side. I think Wiggleworth is the backs coach? Needs to be moved out ASAP.
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Greenwhiteandred wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:32 pm
Leicestertinytiger wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:30 pm
Scott1 wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:29 pm Dreadful all round AGAIN,what a terrible choice Borthwick was! Way out of his depth
If things don’t get better he won’t make the next WC.
Slightly knee jerk reaction 😂
there were signs with us last season Steve wasn't adapting as a coach
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Well that was disappointing but expected after the previous two performances to be honest.

In my view the youngsters/newcomers outperforming the 'old guard' once again in many positions.

I can't help but feel that there would be less pressure/expectation on Borthwick and less frustration if he had tried a bigger overhaul on the squad with a much younger/newer line-up.

We desperately need some international quality centres!
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Jimmy Skitz wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:40 pm
Greenwhiteandred wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:32 pm
Leicestertinytiger wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:30 pm

If things don’t get better he won’t make the next WC.
Slightly knee jerk reaction 😂
there were signs with us last season Steve wasn't adapting as a coach
I agree but to say we won’t qualify for the next WC 🤷‍♂️ just trying to get some perspective
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What do they do all week ? Knock- ons, lost line-outs, passes into touch etc after 5-6 weeks together.
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Retiredseven wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:42 pm Well that was disappointing but expected after the previous two performances to be honest.

In my view the youngsters/newcomers outperforming the 'old guard' once again in many positions.

I can't help but feel that there woild be less pressure/expectation on Borthwick and less frustration if he had tried a bigger overhaul on the squad with a much younger/newer line-up.

We desperately need some international quality centres!
Exactly, if he hit the full reset button then there would probably be more leeway from supporters. But playing Marler, George, Cole, Care, Slade, Daly aren’t for the future so he’s playing for results - and we’ve been playing rubbish.
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Early days for the new defensive system, but conceding 30 points to a Scotland side that barely got out of third gear, and that offered very little fluency in attack is pretty damning.
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Leicestertinytiger wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:45 pm
Retiredseven wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:42 pm Well that was disappointing but expected after the previous two performances to be honest.

In my view the youngsters/newcomers outperforming the 'old guard' once again in many positions.

I can't help but feel that there woild be less pressure/expectation on Borthwick and less frustration if he had tried a bigger overhaul on the squad with a much younger/newer line-up.

We desperately need some international quality centres!
Exactly, if he hit the full reset button then there would probably be more leeway from supporters. But playing Marler, George, Cole, Care, Slade, Daly aren’t for the future so he’s playing for results - and we’ve been playing rubbish.
I agree that’s what I’d have done if I was coach but think he’s probably mindful of the criticism that Eddie got of ignoring the importance of the 6 nations to build for a WC. What SB has missed is that Eddie was so scatter gun in his selections that if he stuck with a young squad then he might get a bit of leeway. Just by looking at the comments on this forum he’s damned if he does etc etc and we are not the press
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Leicestertinytiger wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:35 pm
aslongaswebeatsaints wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:31 pm
Leicestertinytiger wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:12 pm Anyone else disappointed by George as Captain. Zero leadership on the pitch.
Nope. Just you…. :smt009
Not saying he’s a bad player. He’s been my starting no.2 he just never engages with the ref, talks to the players, barks out orders.
Go and read the news about what’s happened in his life recently. Then you might realise how tone death your comments are. And it might give you a clue why he may come across different today. The fact he’s in the pitch today is incredible, brave and shows the true leader he is.
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