Innovation or return of the good old days

[Rugbygramps]

Ulster in their victory over Racing scored 2 tries from tap penalties 5 metres out.
Ball was tapped by the 9 and passed to a forward who turned his back to the opposition while other forwards bound onto him and drove the ball over the line, a good old fashioned maul. All perfectly legal as long as the opposition are able to get to the front ball carrier until the maul is formed and moving when it can be transferred. Good to see and very hard to stop if done properly.

What next will it be the return of the Pivot

[sam16111986]

Not a surprise the tap plays have come back into fashion. So many teams now have a good lineout defence and refs don't give penalty tries at scrums like they used to. Ye olde tap rolling maul play will catch a few defences out, well worth having in rotation until defences get wise.

[tigerburnie]

Just need to get a straight feed into the scrums, ban dangerous lifting in the lineouts, then we will have genuine competition for the ball and the game will be almost as good as it used to be, exciting.

[Rugbygramps]

Just need to get a straight feed into the scrums, ban dangerous lifting in the lineouts, then we will have genuine competition for the ball and the game will be almost as good as it used to be, exciting.

[mightymouse]

just add everyone releasing the ball immediately on the floor and only competing with the feet in a ruck and then we really will have returned to utopia

[Rugbygramps]

just add everyone releasing the ball immediately on the floor and only competing with the feet in a ruck and then we really will have returned to utopia

You can have a couple too

[Old Hob]

just add everyone releasing the ball immediately on the floor and only competing with the feet in a ruck and then we really will have returned to utopia

+ 2 (I've put both hands up)

[Darc Tiger]

Our women's team scored a try like this in the Exeter match

[Old Hob]

Ulster in their victory over Racing scored 2 tries from tap penalties 5 metres out.
Ball was tapped by the 9 and passed to a forward who turned his back to the opposition while other forwards bound onto him and drove the ball over the line, a good old fashioned maul. All perfectly legal as long as the opposition are able to get to the front ball carrier until the maul is formed and moving when it can be transferred. Good to see and very hard to stop if done properly.

What next will it be the return of the Pivot

Sounds very like the old "Flying wedge" of the 60s/70s.

[northerntiger]

just add everyone releasing the ball immediately on the floor and only competing with the feet in a ruck and then we really will have returned to utopia

You can have a couple too

Even better, let’s return to muddy, error strewn 9-6 matches

[Rugbygramps]

Ulster in their victory over Racing scored 2 tries from tap penalties 5 metres out.
Ball was tapped by the 9 and passed to a forward who turned his back to the opposition while other forwards bound onto him and drove the ball over the line, a good old fashioned maul. All perfectly legal as long as the opposition are able to get to the front ball carrier until the maul is formed and moving when it can be transferred. Good to see and very hard to stop if done properly.

What next will it be the return of the Pivot

Sounds very like the old "Flying wedge" of the 60s/70s.

That would be illegal. The other players don’t bind on until the player has the ball. Flying wedge players were pre bound

[ourla]

Well, if it's been done before it's not an innovation is it

I think this is key "very hard to stop if done properly" but can be applied to almost anything right.

Wonder what the %age of tries for attempts with 5m taps. Must be pretty high I would imagine.

[Rugbygramps]

Well, if it's been done before it's not an innovation is it

I think this is key "very hard to stop if done properly" but can be applied to almost anything right.

Wonder what the %age of tries for attempts with 5m taps. Must be pretty high I would imagine.

And getting higher. With line out defences improving and a totally dominant scrum a rarity hopefully we will see more bringing back the old stuff

[Old Hob]

Ulster in their victory over Racing scored 2 tries from tap penalties 5 metres out.
Ball was tapped by the 9 and passed to a forward who turned his back to the opposition while other forwards bound onto him and drove the ball over the line, a good old fashioned maul. All perfectly legal as long as the opposition are able to get to the front ball carrier until the maul is formed and moving when it can be transferred. Good to see and very hard to stop if done properly.

What next will it be the return of the Pivot

Sounds very like the old "Flying wedge" of the 60s/70s.

That would be illegal. The other players don’t bind on until the player has the ball. Flying wedge players were pre bound

I realise that. But, in Paris yesterday, you could see its development. Ruck collapses into a messy heap (as always) ball recycled and Joe Heyes and others stand with arms poised to instantly bind on. So, no pre-bind but as soon as, so making little practical difference.

[Rugbygramps]

Sounds very like the old "Flying wedge" of the 60s/70s.

That would be illegal. The other players don’t bind on until the player has the ball. Flying wedge players were pre bound

I realise that. But, in Paris yesterday, you could see its development. Ruck collapses into a messy heap (as always) ball recycled and Joe Heyes and others stand with arms poised to instantly bind on. So, no pre-bind but as soon as, so making little practical difference.

Yes and no. There is a big difference between 5 or 6 blokes already bound and moving, hence flying wedge, and a player taking the ball, turning his back to the opposition and his mates binding on him, a driving maul.