Tigers v Stade Francais (A) - Champions Cup - Sunday 17th December 2023 - KO:5-30pm

[Wayne Richardson Fan Club]

Rogerson at 7 that's poor when Ilione is sat on the bench. Otherwise not a bad rotated side. Would have preferred dual playmakers with Shillcock at 15 and Atkinson at 10 but Brown's experience from 15 is beneficial as well.

That was my thought, re Illione, we have seen without Reffell this season we get nothing at the breakdown (& dont win the game), 2x12's in the centre not great either.
The short turn round to the Chiefs game obviously coming into play plus injuries.

[Pellsey]

Ohh.. and Martin is playing too. Great news.

[Ze Stade Fan]

STARTING XV

15 Mike Brown [15]
14 Anthony Watson [16]
13 Dan Kelly [67]
12 Solomone Kata [6]
11 Ollie Hassell-Collins [11]
10 Jamie Shillcock [12]
9 Tom Whiteley [16]
1 James Cronin [22]
2 Archie Vanes [10]
3 Joe Heyes [131]
4 George Martin [58]
5 Sam Carter [9]
6 Hanro Liebenberg (c) [96]
7 Matt Rogerson [11]
8 Kyle Hatherell [7]

REPLACEMENTS

16 Finn Theobold-Thomas [1]
17 James Whitcombe [43]
18 Will Hurd [33]
19 Harry Wells [184]
20 Emeka Ilione [16]
21 Joe Powell [7]
22 Charlie Atkinson [23]
23 Harry Simmons [35]

What' ??? I can stuff my suggestion where the sun never shines??? You mean you are taking us SERIOUSLY??? OOooooooh Mean Tigers!!! Brutes! Brutes!

See you at the Pub, 4 rue Caron 75004, métro Saint Paul. Jayz, gonna be a tough one.

I don't know too much about the Stade team how strong is the team they have picked?

Stade picked the strongest possible team, with a few question marks though.

1) Castets (loosehead) is back from injury and visibly lacked game time at Sharks. He is supposedly a great #1, slightly better than his replacement the always cheerful Moses Alo-Emile (Brother of #3, Paul Alo-Emile)

5) Pesenti : great lock. Has a fiery temper. I often pray it's not a red card.

9) Zabalza : a very nice dude, but failed to impress so far. His fellahs Kockott (South African turned French) and Brad Weber are spared for Top 14. Hope he proves me wrong.

14) Hamdaoui. Has had some impressive moment as a full back. Newly re positioned at the wing. Let's hope for the best.

Voilà mon ami.

[Rugbygramps]

Not everyone’s choice, but a strong side still with 8 capped players along with Liebenberg and OHC who are good enough.

Don’t get the down on Rogerson he is very steady and may fit our game plan.

Would think we can get something out of this game.

[sam16111986]

Don’t get the down on Rogerson he is very steady and may fit our game plan.

I'm not anti-Rogerson but I am against not playing someone who can really threaten the breakdown and cause issues. As is stands the best jackler in the starting pack is probably Harry Wells. Not an ideal position to be in.

[Rugbygramps]

Don’t get the down on Rogerson he is very steady and may fit our game plan.

I'm not anti-Rogerson but I am against not playing someone who can really threaten the breakdown and cause issues. As is stands the best jackler in the starting pack is probably Harry Wells. Not an ideal position to be in.

It’s a very fair point. From what little I’ve seen Vanes is pretty good over the ball, and haven’t really seen enough of Hatherall.
I do wonder if Ilione medical studies get in the way of him starting. It is quite clear that he has the talent and the physicality

[TigerFeetSteve]

Don’t get the down on Rogerson he is very steady and may fit our game plan.

I'm not anti-Rogerson but I am against not playing someone who can really threaten the breakdown and cause issues. As is stands the best jackler in the starting pack is probably Harry Wells. Not an ideal position to be in.

Wells isn't starting... Martin and Carter are

[sam16111986]

Don’t get the down on Rogerson he is very steady and may fit our game plan.

I'm not anti-Rogerson but I am against not playing someone who can really threaten the breakdown and cause issues. As is stands the best jackler in the starting pack is probably Harry Wells. Not an ideal position to be in.

Wells isn't starting... Martin and Carter are

Apologies, quite right. In which case, erm Liebenburg is our breakdown threat?

[PeteK]

I would have started with Ilione at 7 in the starting 15, been superb in the breakdown so far this year.

[Pellsey]

I'm not anti-Rogerson but I am against not playing someone who can really threaten the breakdown and cause issues. As is stands the best jackler in the starting pack is probably Harry Wells. Not an ideal position to be in.

Wells isn't starting... Martin and Carter are

Let's hope there aren’t any breakdowns then haha...

Illione is on the bench for that though..

Apologies, quite right. In which case, erm Liebenburg is our breakdown threat?

[Tiglon]

Agreed, I feel we've struggled without the breakdown threat. Disappointing that Ilione doesn't seem to get much of a chance, he's looked to add something when he's come on.

[Rugbygramps]

Maybe we are looking to defend without attacking the breakdown. There are teams that do defend like this choosing to counter ruck when the opposition is under resourced.

In other words there is more than one way to skin a cat

[No6_Flanker]

Not everyone’s choice, but a strong side still with 8 capped players along with Liebenberg and OHC who are good enough.

OHC got a couple of caps in this year’s 6 Nations.

[Rugbygramps]

Not everyone’s choice, but a strong side still with 8 capped players along with Liebenberg and OHC who are good enough.

OHC got a couple of caps in this year’s 6 Nations.

My apologies of course he did. Hopefully more to come

[markharbtiger]

Interesting selection. Personally, I think it's spot on: rotated players with a strong side, but at the same time giving some of our stalwarts a bit of a rest.
COYT!