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TMO reviews and Dallaglio

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Dallaglio argues in the Telegraph for a change in TMO rulings as they are "Paralysis by analysis".

More interestingly (hilariously?) he argues for stricter financial controls. The man has little self-awareness and his irony detector must have been lost at the bottom of a ruck somewhere.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/other/l ... 001c&ei=71
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Old Hob wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 5:50 pm Dallaglio argues in the Telegraph for a change in TMO rulings as they are "Paralysis by analysis".

More interestingly (hilariously?) he argues for stricter financial controls. The man has little self-awareness and his irony detector must have been lost at the bottom of a ruck somewhere.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/other/l ... 001c&ei=71
He also argues for more interviews etc during play, thats the last new/old fans want to see, I didnt like the article at all, I say get rid of Dayglo.
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I am a fan of the TMO. Like much refereeing there needs more consistent applications of the laws.

Parallel virtual lines for forward passes.

The review of yellows for foul play saves time. Delaying the game to decide if it is red or yellow is nor required if the TV official can take a few minutes whilst the game continues continues.

If the ref wants a try checking, again take the conversion in the mean time whilst the decision is checked, saving at least a minute or two of deliberation time.

Given that in the Premiership the touch judges are qualified refs, they too should police the offside line and scrum offences on the opposite side to the ref. It shouldn’t be down to the referee’s view as to whether or not he wants them to. Final decision with the ref but too many times the defending side gats away lining up offside and able to tackle players before they get up to speed.
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mol2 wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 9:39 am

If the ref wants a try checking, again take the conversion in the mean time whilst the decision is checked, saving at least a minute or two of deliberation time.

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Once the conversion is kicked the score stands, that's the law of the game, hence some have been seen trying to take a quick conversion before the ref can have his mind changed.
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tigerburnie wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:19 pm
mol2 wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 9:39 am

If the ref wants a try checking, again take the conversion in the mean time whilst the decision is checked, saving at least a minute or two of deliberation time.

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Once the conversion is kicked the score stands, that's the law of the game, hence some have been seen trying to take a quick conversion before the ref can have his mind changed.
This has changed this year and the try can be disallowed after the kick
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tigerburnie wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:19 pm
mol2 wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 9:39 am

If the ref wants a try checking, again take the conversion in the mean time whilst the decision is checked, saving at least a minute or two of deliberation time.

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Once the conversion is kicked the score stands, that's the law of the game, hence some have been seen trying to take a quick conversion before the ref can have his mind changed.
The law was changed a couple of seasons ago, they now have until the kick off after.
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I thought that was international matches?
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mol2 wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 6:09 pm I thought that was international matches?
So did I, but they seem to change the laws as often as the wind changes.
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Don’t mind the TMO. What I don’t understand is why the touch judges (professional referees in their own right) play such a passive role, particularly when a clear infringement is happening in front of them.
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LE18 wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 9:09 pm
Old Hob wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 5:50 pm Dallaglio argues in the Telegraph for a change in TMO rulings as they are "Paralysis by analysis".

More interestingly (hilariously?) he argues for stricter financial controls. The man has little self-awareness and his irony detector must have been lost at the bottom of a ruck somewhere.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/other/l ... 001c&ei=71
He also argues for more interviews etc during play, thats the last new/old fans want to see, I didnt like the article at all, I say get rid of Dayglo.
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To be scrupulously fair, I thought Dallaglio's commentary on Saturday was, at least to start with, fairly even handed. There was even some praise/ respect I felt - not a lot mind.
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I suppose that he can’t drool over Wasps any more so hating Tigers is all that’s left.

I am a fan of the TMO. I have no problem with going back several phases of play to check forward passes in the run up to a try. A cute forward pass can cut out the defence and force scrambled phases of defence subsequently. So long as the review is prompt.

Perhaps, like cricket, there should be ref/TMO reviews and each captain given 2 appeals to the TMO if they think they have conceded or been denied a try as a consequence of foul play, offside, blocking or a missed forward pass.

Max 2 minutes for any decision, if not ref’s initial decision stands. Not like the 10 minute deliberation we had a the European tie last year over a grounding.

Parallel (to the try line) virtual lines to decide if forwards or not. None of the momentum, hands garbage to consider. If the ball is taken in front of the point the ball was released, it is forward. No deliberation. Seconds to bring up on screen.
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