So this is a direct translation to English (Robe may attest or not to its accuracy) from the "club source"
The first contacts went well but nothing has happened. has yet been recorded. We will let him breathe in the country, allow him to take full advantage of the celebrations following the title of world champion. After that, we will probably re-engage in dialogue.
To me this says they have put an offer in front of him, metting went well but they are leaving him to think in it.
Certainly doesn't to me read as "signed sealed delivered"
Used to run around with an 11, 14 or 15 on my back.
Arguably our most important player. I’d maybe say given the way we play more important than Montoya. Would be a massive shame to see him go especially given the departures from the title winning squad of Ford, Moroni, Genge etc already.
TigerFeetSteve wrote: ↑Sun Nov 05, 2023 7:23 pm
So this is a direct translation to English (Robe may attest or not to its accuracy) from the "club source"
The first contacts went well but nothing has happened. has yet been recorded. We will let him breathe in the country, allow him to take full advantage of the celebrations following the title of world champion. After that, we will probably re-engage in dialogue.
To me this says they have put an offer in front of him, metting went well but they are leaving him to think in it.
Certainly doesn't to me read as "signed sealed delivered"
Wouldn’t want to lose Wiese but we probably can’t compete with French wages and in Hatherall we have a player who has great potential. Our back row stocks are quite good and it may be that McKellar would prefer to use any cap space to strengthen other positions especially if Cole retires anytime soon. Prop and 13 our most urgent needs in my opinion.
How helpful it must have been for the French teams to have the world's best players on their doorstep for a few months to discuss potential contracts and moves away from their clubs.
That said, the time has to come where clubs cut their cloth according to what they can afford and I suspect that we would end up going short elsewhere if ended up matching an offer from a French club for a World Cup winning player. I think that we would be heavily relying on the player having a strong attachment to the club and the life they have built here if they are to stay.
Even though under contract, I can see an offer coming in for Pollard as well.
Pollard is rumoured to be one of the best paid players in world rugby.
So I don't know if France pay will be that big a gap, Pollard also played in the top 14 and hated it. I have more a worry about a SA URC team signing him.
Wiese, I guess we will see Viliame Mata was linked to Toulon in his prime yet he turned them down and stayed at Edinburgh of all clubs. Sometimes players value different things.
GB72 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:12 am
How helpful it must have been for the French teams to have the world's best players on their doorstep for a few months to discuss potential contracts and moves away from their clubs.
That said, the time has to come where clubs cut their cloth according to what they can afford and I suspect that we would end up going short elsewhere if ended up matching an offer from a French club for a World Cup winning player. I think that we would be heavily relying on the player having a strong attachment to the club and the life they have built here if they are to stay.
Even though under contract, I can see an offer coming in for Pollard as well.
Its not like soccer. If he’s under contract there is no compunction for Tigers to let him go unless the player doesn’t want to see out his contract which would surprise me with Pollard
Lets not forget that the players are returning to MWWR under a new coaching regime and this may be a part of the decision making process...........happy working place and great comeraderie and the relationships with Dan and co.
GB72 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:12 am
How helpful it must have been for the French teams to have the world's best players on their doorstep for a few months to discuss potential contracts and moves away from their clubs.
That said, the time has to come where clubs cut their cloth according to what they can afford and I suspect that we would end up going short elsewhere if ended up matching an offer from a French club for a World Cup winning player. I think that we would be heavily relying on the player having a strong attachment to the club and the life they have built here if they are to stay.
Even though under contract, I can see an offer coming in for Pollard as well.
Its not like soccer. If he’s under contract there is no compunction for Tigers to let him go unless the player doesn’t want to see out his contract which would surprise me with Pollard
I don't think you can compare Pollard and Weise either. Pollard was playing Super Rugby at 20 and had a short stint in Japan mid Bulls contract before signing a big money deal at Montpellier. A pay cut to join Tigers still has him as our marquee player. A double winning world cup flyhalf I imagine attracts endorsements as well. Money is unlikely to be a driving factor whereas family and environment probably are (whilst being the club's top earner always helps).
Weise is a year younger than Pollard but really only started making headlines the season before joining Tigers. At 28 its entirely understandable that he's looking for a good deal as he's probably got five years of playing at the top level and a family to support on the back of that. He doesn't have the endorsement options Pollard is likely to have so irrelevant of how much he loves Tigers he will have to play the field a bit. I hope we keep hold of him but understand his position in meeting with other clubs.
ay2oh wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:53 am
Wouldn’t want to lose Wiese but we probably can’t compete with French wages and in Hatherall we have a player who has great potential. Our back row stocks are quite good and it may be that McKellar would prefer to use any cap space to strengthen other positions especially if Cole retires anytime soon. Prop and 13 our most urgent needs in my opinion.
Great potential at the age of 28?
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