LEICESTER TIGERS 2022/23 Squad and transfers thread part 2: The Lion, the Wig and the Wardrobe

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Re: LEICESTER TIGERS 2022/23 Squad and transfers thread part 2: The Lion, the Wig and the Wardrobe

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Tigersunited wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:01 pm
trendylfj wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:54 am Telegraph have him staying - "Besides Kata and Bassett, Ollie Hassell-Collins, Sam Carter and Kyle Hatherell have all been signed to strengthen Tigers. And, for now, Anthony Watson appears to be staying. McKellar has plenty to mould. Without the backroom upheaval of last season, reaching the play-offs must be his aim"
I’d say we have a great squad and top 2 is the aim.
I like your optimism
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markharbtiger wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:40 pm
Tigersunited wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:01 pm
trendylfj wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:54 am Telegraph have him staying - "Besides Kata and Bassett, Ollie Hassell-Collins, Sam Carter and Kyle Hatherell have all been signed to strengthen Tigers. And, for now, Anthony Watson appears to be staying. McKellar has plenty to mould. Without the backroom upheaval of last season, reaching the play-offs must be his aim"
I’d say we have a great squad and top 2 is the aim.
I like your optimism
Top 2 should definitely be the target. It's the not the minimum but we should definitely have our eyes on a home semi final, it's both good for business and the most likely way to progress to the Prem final.

We've got a good squad for next season. A couple of areas aren't ideal but there's no massive weaknesses. Get Pollard back from the world up in one piece and keep him that way and he'll be huge for us.
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Re: LEICESTER TIGERS 2022/23 Squad and transfers thread part 2: The Lion, the Wig and the Wardrobe

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But it’s World Cup Year.
New coaching team need time so I’d say the target is to take one game at a time aiming to win.
We will really miss Wigglesworth and there’s no telling what till the World Cup will take in terms of players fitness. Sadly I can see Pollard coming back injured! I hope not as he is a truly class act: as are all our lads.
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Re: LEICESTER TIGERS 2022/23 Squad and transfers thread part 2: The Lion, the Wig and the Wardrobe

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Ian Cant wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:36 pm But it’s World Cup Year.
New coaching team need time so I’d say the target is to take one game at a time aiming to win.
We will really miss Wigglesworth and there’s no telling what till the World Cup will take in terms of players fitness. Sadly I can see Pollard coming back injured! I hope not as he is a truly class act: as are all our lads.
Plus looking at the pool completion in what was the Heineken Cup, I think our physios will be busy this season!
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Pellsey wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:02 am My gut feeling now about Watson is that he is to be paid by England from July until the end of the world cup (ie be clubless) and then will look at signing with a club. I may be wrong, and this might be a stupid idea, but I can see this happening, especially as he has just got married...
I think this sets a dangerous precedent for the RFU to have to deal with if other players don’t sign with clubs in the future.
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Surely to win the Premiership has to be the aim, with top 4 minimum. Come on, this is Tigers... we shouldn't aim for anything less!

Whether we will manage this or not is maybe a different story. We certainly have a very decent squad, so I think it is possible.
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FrontRowUnionMember wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 9:12 pm
Pellsey wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:02 am My gut feeling now about Watson is that he is to be paid by England from July until the end of the world cup (ie be clubless) and then will look at signing with a club. I may be wrong, and this might be a stupid idea, but I can see this happening, especially as he has just got married...
I think this sets a dangerous precedent for the RFU to have to deal with if other players don’t sign with clubs in the future.
I completely agree, and I sincerely hope this is not the case.
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Pellsey wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:02 am My gut feeling now about Watson is that he is to be paid by England from July until the end of the world cup (ie be clubless) and then will look at signing with a club. I may be wrong, and this might be a stupid idea, but I can see this happening, especially as he has just got married...
My gut says that he knows exactly where he's going (I.e Japan/France), that Tigers have agreed to not announce him as leaving, the new club have agreed to not announce him as coming and that the RFU are turning a blind eye because Steve wants him in the World Cup squad.

I may need to take off my tin hat, but at this point I don't think we see him in a Tigers shirt next season.
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TTRITH wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:58 am
Pellsey wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:02 am My gut feeling now about Watson is that he is to be paid by England from July until the end of the world cup (ie be clubless) and then will look at signing with a club. I may be wrong, and this might be a stupid idea, but I can see this happening, especially as he has just got married...
My gut says that he knows exactly where he's going (I.e Japan/France), that Tigers have agreed to not announce him as leaving, the new club have agreed to not announce him as coming and that the RFU are turning a blind eye because Steve wants him in the World Cup squad.

I may need to take off my tin hat, but at this point I don't think we see him in a Tigers shirt next season.
This also makes sense, unfortunately...
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Watson not going Sarries then?
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Scott1 wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:36 am Watson not going Sarries then?
It was posted on here a few weeks ago that a source from Sarries said they've given up on him.

However said source said that was because he was staying here, so if that was a genuine source then I wouldn't say in increases rumours of him going abroad.
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Pellsey wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:00 am
TTRITH wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:58 am
Pellsey wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:02 am My gut feeling now about Watson is that he is to be paid by England from July until the end of the world cup (ie be clubless) and then will look at signing with a club. I may be wrong, and this might be a stupid idea, but I can see this happening, especially as he has just got married...
My gut says that he knows exactly where he's going (I.e Japan/France), that Tigers have agreed to not announce him as leaving, the new club have agreed to not announce him as coming and that the RFU are turning a blind eye because Steve wants him in the World Cup squad.

I may need to take off my tin hat, but at this point I don't think we see him in a Tigers shirt next season.
This also makes sense, unfortunately...
Not really as he's previously said he'd rather stay in England as it's closer to family and that moving closer to Surrey would be preferable as that's where his family are and he wants that support structure with a young family at home.

Moving to Japan or France would then make it tricky.

I suspect his agent has been trying to do deals to get him down to Quins or Sarries which would be closer but has kept an offer on the table from us as well. With Potter going we are probably more interested than ever in keeping him.
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TTRITH wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:58 am
Pellsey wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:02 am My gut feeling now about Watson is that he is to be paid by England from July until the end of the world cup (ie be clubless) and then will look at signing with a club. I may be wrong, and this might be a stupid idea, but I can see this happening, especially as he has just got married...
My gut says that he knows exactly where he's going (I.e Japan/France), that Tigers have agreed to not announce him as leaving, the new club have agreed to not announce him as coming and that the RFU are turning a blind eye because Steve wants him in the World Cup squad.

I may need to take off my tin hat, but at this point I don't think we see him in a Tigers shirt next season.
I sincerely hope the club isn’t being used like this as a player. If he is leaving there is no benefit to the club not to announce he is going
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At contract time I would think any player does what he thinks best for himself and his family whilst the club does what is best for the club. I hope we manage to keep Watson but I do not want to see us extending his contract by his one season when he is likely to be absent on World Cup.and 6 Nations duty for much of it, for me if he does re-sign it must be for a minimum of two years or even better for three.I
Surely we are getting close to the club announcement of the squads for next season, I do realise they have problems not knowing who will.be required by Borthwick but unfortunately most decisions have to be made now.
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johnthegriff wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 12:39 pm At contract time I would think any player does what he thinks best for himself and his family whilst the club does what is best for the club. I hope we manage to keep Watson but I do not want to see us extending his contract by his one season when he is likely to be absent on World Cup.and 6 Nations duty for much of it, for me if he does re-sign it must be for a minimum of two years or even better for three.I
Surely we are getting close to the club announcement of the squads for next season, I do realise they have problems not knowing who will.be required by Borthwick but unfortunately most decisions have to be made now.
JTG other than Sarries and Sale players I can’t see anyone being added to the England squad now. I think it will be more a gradual reduction in numbers until the final 33 is announced.
I do wonder if we are looking at some of the Irish players on late deals. There are still some quality players who’s destination hasn’t been announced including a couple of Argentinian players
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