Where are they now? - The turnover during the Borthwick years

[RagingBull]

Kinda was interested in where the players are now that left during the first two years of Borthwick when we had massive churn.
So kinda did this list like 10 or so names a time.
Sam Costelow - Scarlet
Jonny May - Gloucester
Joe Batley - Worcester - Bristol
Sam Eveleigh - Newcastle Uni
Leo Gilliland - NTU - West Bridgford RFC
Adam Thompstone - Retirement
Jimmy Stevens - Retirement
Jonah Holmes - Dragons - Ealing
Will Spencer - Bath
Guy Thompson - Ealing - Jersey - Retirement
Owen Hills - N/A
Telusa Veainu - Stade Francais
Gaston Cortes - Toronto Arrows - N/A
Noel Reid - Agen - London Irish - Toronto Arrows
Manu Tuilagi - Sale Sharks
EW Viljoen - Lions
Sione Kalamafoni - Scarlets - Vannes
Cameron Jordan - Hartbury - Gloucester
Tatafu Polota-Nau - Retirement/Western Sydney Two Blues
Kyran Bungaroo - Trelissac - retirement
Keston Lines - Coventry - Chinnor
Greg Bateman - Dragons - retirement
Joe Thomas - Houston Sabrecats - Aberavon Wizards
Jordan Taufua - Lyon
Blake Enever - retirement
Facundo Gigena - London Irish
Shalva Mamukashvili - The Black Lion
Jordan Olowofela - Nottingham
Kyle Eastmond - Leeds Rhinos - Retirement
Tom Hardwick - SC Albi - Ampthill
Luke Wallace - Harlequins
Jake Kerr - Bristol - N/A
Tomas Lavanini - Clermont
Luan De Bruin - Edinburgh
Zack Henry - Pau
Johnny McPhillips - US Carcassonne
Ollie Ashworth - N/A
Jordan Coghlan - Terenure
Darryl Marfo - retirement
Sam Lewis - Calvisano - Hartbury
Ben White - London Irish
Osman Dimen - Bedford
Henri Lavin - Loughborough
Joaquín Díaz Bonilla - Sharks - Old Glory
Ryan Bower - London Irish - Dallas
Kit Smith - Coventry - N/A
George Worth - Rebels - Valence Romans Drôme Rugby
Gareth Evans - retirement
Thom Smith - Doncaster Knights
Cyle Brink - Bulls
Kobus van wyk - Zebre Parma
Tom Youngs - Retirement
Dan Lancaster - Ealing

[longlivethecrumbie]

That's some turnover! I didn't realise that Jake Kerr wasn't at Bristol any longer. There were also a few names on here where I went 'oh God, I'd forgotten about him!'

[TigerFeetSteve]

Kinda was interested in where the players are now that left during the first two years of Borthwick when we had massive churn.
So kinda did this list like 10 or so names a time.

That's some turnover! I didn't realise that Jake Kerr wasn't at Bristol any longer. There were also a few names on here where I went 'oh God, I'd forgotten about him!'

They only announced Kerr leaving Bristol earlier this week in their main leavers list

[TigerFeetSteve]

Did Aspland-Robinson pass 2 years under Borthwick?

[MurphysLaw]

Jonny Law - Jersey Reds?

[sam16111986]

Did Aspland-Robinson pass 2 years under Borthwick?

He's retired and now runs a gym in Leicester that's co-owned with Genge.

[kpj tiger]

Did Thompstone choose to retire? I always felt he got done dirty a bit

[iceman_19]

Marco Van Staden!

A good mix of players I'm gutted to see play for other clubs, some players who are undoubtedly good but who just didn't click for some reason, and....er....some others.

Also, was always surprised to see Ollie Ashworth drop off the radar. From recollection he was voted players' player of the season in the victorious U18 campaign in a side which involved Steward, Martin, JVP, Costelow etc.

PS Great thread RB.

[Hot_Charlie]

Did Thompstone choose to retire? I always felt he got done dirty a bit

I think so. He's gone into business/finance.

[Hot_Charlie]

Marco Van Staden!

A good mix of players I'm gutted to see play for other clubs, some players who are undoubtedly good but who just didn't click for some reason, and....er....some others.

Also, was always surprised to see Ollie Ashworth drop off the radar. From recollection he was voted players' player of the season in the victorious U18 campaign in a side which involved Steward, Martin, JVP, Costelow etc.

PS Great thread RB.

Van Staden will prove to be a very interesting case in the long term. The indicators are that the medical advice in England was that he wasn't fit to play and wouldn't be any time soon, hence his release. It was then a very quick turnaround between "returning to South Africa to continue his rehabilitation" and suddenly playing again.

Maybe the insurers have more of an appetite for risk over there.

[Tigerbeat]

Marco van Staden - the insurance may have been an issue but it was a financial risk to carry on with a player who was uncertain of a return to play date…..a cut your losses decision by Tiger?

[Rugbygramps]

Marco Van Staden!

A good mix of players I'm gutted to see play for other clubs, some players who are undoubtedly good but who just didn't click for some reason, and....er....some others.

Also, was always surprised to see Ollie Ashworth drop off the radar. From recollection he was voted players' player of the season in the victorious U18 campaign in a side which involved Steward, Martin, JVP, Costelow etc.

PS Great thread RB.

Van Staden will prove to be a very interesting case in the long term. The indicators are that the medical advice in England was that he wasn't fit to play and wouldn't be any time soon, hence his release. It was then a very quick turnaround between "returning to South Africa to continue his rehabilitation" and suddenly playing again.

Maybe the insurers have more of an appetite for risk over there.

If he injury to Kolisi is as bad as feared, MVS may yet play a large part in RWC

[longlivethecrumbie]

Marco Van Staden!

A good mix of players I'm gutted to see play for other clubs, some players who are undoubtedly good but who just didn't click for some reason, and....er....some others.

Also, was always surprised to see Ollie Ashworth drop off the radar. From recollection he was voted players' player of the season in the victorious U18 campaign in a side which involved Steward, Martin, JVP, Costelow etc.

PS Great thread RB.

Van Staden will prove to be a very interesting case in the long term. The indicators are that the medical advice in England was that he wasn't fit to play and wouldn't be any time soon, hence his release. It was then a very quick turnaround between "returning to South Africa to continue his rehabilitation" and suddenly playing again.

Maybe the insurers have more of an appetite for risk over there.

A bit like LCD - he's fine to play over here but things are a bit more stringent in France, hence the extra medical checks etc

[Hot_Charlie]

Marco Van Staden!

A good mix of players I'm gutted to see play for other clubs, some players who are undoubtedly good but who just didn't click for some reason, and....er....some others.

Also, was always surprised to see Ollie Ashworth drop off the radar. From recollection he was voted players' player of the season in the victorious U18 campaign in a side which involved Steward, Martin, JVP, Costelow etc.

PS Great thread RB.

Van Staden will prove to be a very interesting case in the long term. The indicators are that the medical advice in England was that he wasn't fit to play and wouldn't be any time soon, hence his release. It was then a very quick turnaround between "returning to South Africa to continue his rehabilitation" and suddenly playing again.

Maybe the insurers have more of an appetite for risk over there.

A bit like LCD - he's fine to play over here but things are a bit more stringent in France, hence the extra medical checks etc

Made more interesting by the fact it's head injury related. That's a very brave call to make.

[RagingBull]

Jonny Law - Jersey Reds?

Yeh forgot him well spotted.