Tigers post Borthwick - next Head Coach?

[sapajo]

Is it also likely that the Wigglesworth is only intrim head coach in that he along with AW is also leaving at the end of this season to join SB & KS at england & that the club already know that.

What coaching role has WW excelled in to qualify him to perform for England?

[Pellsey]

Is it also likely that the Wigglesworth is only intrim head coach in that he along with AW is also leaving at the end of this season to join SB & KS at england & that the club already know that.

What coaching role has WW excelled in to qualify him to perform for England?

What coaching role has WW excelled in to qualify him to perform for Tigers?

I definitely don't believe he is "likely" to go to England.

[Qbec]

Well as it seems that SB has already stated he wants to get both men with him at the england set up, So as to wether WW has excelled in to qualify him to perform for England? has no bearing on it if thats what SB wants.

[RagingBull]

I think it's very likely.
Borthwick clearly rates him.

[Pellsey]

I wouldn't be against it though, it would be better for Tigers to have a more qualified and experienced head coach with new ideas. We have been a little one dimensional, IMHO, and teams have learnt how to get around our defence and attack.

[Qbec]

with all in mind I will repeat what I said yesterday "any replacements to the above will likely not occur until end of this season but most likely after the world cup so 2 seasons."
Those being this season & next, from what I can see right now we are right back to where we were before SB arrived with searches going on around the world for the Best availble people, meanwhile players due to have contracts renewed or indeed players we may have been looking to bringing in may well be put on hold by us or they may well be having 2nd thoughts.

£1m is not going to cut it if that was indeed the figure we got from the RFU, because no matter how you look at this, the heart has been ripped out of the club.
I am not saying SB & KS have done us over by leaving because we all expected it indeed the club were planning for it.But Not Now!! The trouble being the RFU got wiggly bums & sacked EJ.
I feel we would have been right to say you are contracted to the end of this season or whenever as i think it was for longer & The TIGERS come first not england, I have supported my club for many years & always will but this stinks & I will never forget who/how this has come about through no fault of 22k+ supporters of this great club.
If this upsets anyone so be it, but I am really angry at what has come about here.

[jgriffin]

with all in mind I will repeat what I said yesterday "any replacements to the above will likely not occur until end of this season but most likely after the world cup so 2 seasons."
Those being this season & next, from what I can see right now we are right back to where we were before SB arrived with searches going on around the world for the Best availble people, meanwhile players due to have contracts renewed or indeed players we may have been looking to bringing in may well be put on hold by us or they may well be having 2nd thoughts.

£1m is not going to cut it if that was indeed the figure we got from the RFU, because no matter how you look at this, the heart has been ripped out of the club.
I am not saying SB & KS have done us over by leaving because we all expected it indeed the club were planning for it.But Not Now!! The trouble being the RFU got wiggly bums & sacked EJ.
I feel we would have been right to say you are contracted to the end of this season or whenever as i think it was for longer & The TIGERS come first not england, I have supported my club for many years & always will but this stinks & I will never forget who/how this has come about through no fault of 22k+ supporters of this great club.
If this upsets anyone so be it, but I am really angry at what has come about here.

#metoo

[Rugbygramps]

with all in mind I will repeat what I said yesterday "any replacements to the above will likely not occur until end of this season but most likely after the world cup so 2 seasons."
Those being this season & next, from what I can see right now we are right back to where we were before SB arrived with searches going on around the world for the Best availble people, meanwhile players due to have contracts renewed or indeed players we may have been looking to bringing in may well be put on hold by us or they may well be having 2nd thoughts.

£1m is not going to cut it if that was indeed the figure we got from the RFU, because no matter how you look at this, the heart has been ripped out of the club.
I am not saying SB & KS have done us over by leaving because we all expected it indeed the club were planning for it.But Not Now!! The trouble being the RFU got wiggly bums & sacked EJ.
I feel we would have been right to say you are contracted to the end of this season or whenever as i think it was for longer & The TIGERS come first not england, I have supported my club for many years & always will but this stinks & I will never forget who/how this has come about through no fault of 22k+ supporters of this great club.
If this upsets anyone so be it, but I am really angry at what has come about here.

if you were offered the top job in your field and your current employer said no we expect to see out your contract, I’m sure you would have been delighted and given your all for that period.
I get peoples upset but some really do need to accept the situation, and the unusual set of circumstances that occurred.
I’m sorry but I also don’t get this Tigers or England mindset. How about supporting rugby ?

[jgriffin]

If it means Tigers crash and burn then England can do one.

[Rugbygramps]

If it means Tigers crash and burn then England can do one.

Well when they do come back to me

[Rugbygramps]

What makes my blood boil is that supporters, and yes I believe they are true supporters, believe in the real world, that Borthwick, Sinfield and Tigers should have told the RFU to wait for 6 months.

Doesn’t matter who’s fault it was or who took their eye off the ball, in a real world scenario that just wasn’t going to happen.

[wigworth]

What makes my blood boil is that supporters, and yes I believe they are true supporters, believe in the real world, that Borthwick, Sinfield and Tigers should have told the RFU to wait for 6 months.

Doesn’t matter who’s fault it was or who took their eye off the ball, in a real world scenario that just wasn’t going to happen.

Coaching jobs aren't like buses, the same opportunity will likely never come again if you miss it.

[Rugbygramps]

What makes my blood boil is that supporters, and yes I believe they are true supporters, believe in the real world, that Borthwick, Sinfield and Tigers should have told the RFU to wait for 6 months.

Doesn’t matter who’s fault it was or who took their eye off the ball, in a real world scenario that just wasn’t going to happen.

Coaching jobs aren't like buses, the same opportunity will likely never come again if you miss it.
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Nail on head

[sapajo]

with all in mind I will repeat what I said yesterday "any replacements to the above will likely not occur until end of this season but most likely after the world cup so 2 seasons."
Those being this season & next, from what I can see right now we are right back to where we were before SB arrived with searches going on around the world for the Best availble people, meanwhile players due to have contracts renewed or indeed players we may have been looking to bringing in may well be put on hold by us or they may well be having 2nd thoughts.

£1m is not going to cut it if that was indeed the figure we got from the RFU, because no matter how you look at this, the heart has been ripped out of the club.
I am not saying SB & KS have done us over by leaving because we all expected it indeed the club were planning for it.But Not Now!! The trouble being the RFU got wiggly bums & sacked EJ.
I feel we would have been right to say you are contracted to the end of this season or whenever as i think it was for longer & The TIGERS come first not england, I have supported my club for many years & always will but this stinks & I will never forget who/how this has come about through no fault of 22k+ supporters of this great club.
If this upsets anyone so be it, but I am really angry at what has come about here.

Excellent post we are back to square one. If any reminder is needed the club is a business and the compensation money was just to alluring to turn down. For me the club have a lot to answer for choosing to pocket the cash and cynically see out the season as cheap as possible because there is no relegation. I do not care a flying fig about England its always club first for me.

[sapajo]

What makes my blood boil is that supporters, and yes I believe they are true supporters, believe in the real world, that Borthwick, Sinfield and Tigers should have told the RFU to wait for 6 months.

Doesn’t matter who’s fault it was or who took their eye off the ball, in a real world scenario that just wasn’t going to happen.

Coaching jobs aren't like buses, the same opportunity will likely never come again if you miss it.

Perhaps, but that does not mean we are all sheep that subscribe to this opinion presented as a fact.