Premiership Final v Saracens - 18th June 2022 KO 15:00

[westwinds31]

STARTING XV
15 Freddie Steward [55]
14 Chris Ashton [11]
13 Matías Moroni [35]
12 Guy Porter [44]
11 Harry Potter [40]
10 George Ford [128]
9 Richard Wigglesworth [36]
1 Ellis Genge (c) [110]
2 Julián Montoya [26]
3 Dan Cole [289]
4 Ollie Chessum [30]
5 Calum Green [90]
6 Hanro Liebenberg (vc) [58]
7 Tommy Reffell [77]
8 Jasper Wiese [44]

REPLACEMENTS
16 Charlie Clare [51]
17 Nephi Leatigaga [67]
18 Joe Heyes [100]
19 Harry Wells [155]
20 George Martin [38]
21 Ben Youngs [281]
22 Freddie Burns [102]
23 Matt Scott [46]

[westwinds31]

No Nadolo ! or JVP

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Slap in the face for JVP!

[westwinds31]

STARTING XV
15 Freddie Steward [55]
14 Chris Ashton [11]
13 Matías Moroni [35]
12 Guy Porter [44]
11 Harry Potter [40]
10 George Ford [128]
9 Richard Wigglesworth [36]
1 Ellis Genge (c) [110]
2 Julián Montoya [26]
3 Dan Cole [289]
4 Ollie Chessum [30]
5 Calum Green [90]
6 Hanro Liebenberg (vc) [58]
7 Tommy Reffell [77]
8 Jasper Wiese [44]

REPLACEMENTS
16 Charlie Clare [51]
17 Nephi Leatigaga [67]
18 Joe Heyes [100]
19 Harry Wells [155]
20 George Martin [38]
21 Ben Youngs [281]
22 Freddie Burns [102]
23 Matt Scott [46]

That's a clear message about how we're going to play this. Territory, line speed, set piece. Probably our best shot.

[Noggs]

Experience over youth

[Old Hob]

Didn't see Wigg starting. Ok with it though. Good selection elsewhere. Shame for JVP, but he should have many more finals to come.

[TigerFeetSteve]

Ok so Wigglesworth starting is a big surprise, one assumes Borthwick has some grand plan!

JvP and Nadolo the unluckiest of those missing out.

That is though a monster of a team In Borthwick we trust

[Rugbygramps]

Slap in the face for JVP!

Why is it team picked for the opposition which will have been explained to him, he still has plenty of years to go.

[Rugbygramps]

Ok so Wigglesworth starting is a big surprise, one assumes Borthwick has some grand plan!

JvP and Nadolo the unluckiest of those missing out.

That is though a monster of a team In Borthwick we trust

Agree with Wigglesworth but there aren’t many of that Sarries team he doesn’t know inside out.

[sam16111986]

Slap in the face for JVP!

Why is it team picked for the opposition which will have been explained to him, he still has plenty of years to go.

Agreed. Borthwick picks horses for courses and JVP seems a mature enough person to understand the decision. It's not like Borthwick isn't backing him it's just that he's looking for control first.

Concerned we're a bit short on carrying capabilities in the backs. A lot is going to rest on the shoulders of Porter. Suspect we'll be going to the air a lot.

[TigerFeetSteve]

Ok so Wigglesworth starting is a big surprise, one assumes Borthwick has some grand plan!

JvP and Nadolo the unluckiest of those missing out.

That is though a monster of a team In Borthwick we trust

Agree with Wigglesworth but there aren’t many of that Sarries team he doesn’t know inside out.

Exactly, hence my grand plan comments.

Huge levels of experience throughout the 23.

[Rugbygramps]

Slap in the face for JVP!

Why is it team picked for the opposition which will have been explained to him, he still has plenty of years to go.

Agreed. Borthwick picks horses for courses and JVP seems a mature enough person to understand the decision. It's not like Borthwick isn't backing him it's just that he's looking for control first.

Concerned we're a bit short on carrying capabilities in the backs. A lot is going to rest on the shoulders of Porter. Suspect we'll be going to the air a lot.

Aerial attack and close to the rucks another reason for WW starting, Lenny on with 30 minutes to go against tired legs

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Slap in the face for JVP!

Why is it team picked for the opposition which will have been explained to him, he still has plenty of years to go.

Just my opinion. I think JVP is better than WW.

IBWT though....rest of the team is great. Again IMO.

[amazing tiger]

Glad chessum is in there as we can compete with their line out! I’m shocked there’s no nadolo thought he would be a shoe in for the 23 shirt. I’m not sure about ww though I guess it shows our intentions and it probably is our best bet of winning. Also glad he went with Ashton on the wing as opposed to burns at full back. Heart says us head says them

[Louis]

I'm simultaneously more scared and less scared about the final.

More scared because I think Sarries are better opposition than Saints, less scared because if Tigers don't win, at least they don't don't win to Saints!

I'm probably in a small minority here but would much rather lose to Saints, I despise Sarries that much. I know that's odd!

The rivalries over the years with Bath, Sarries, and Wasps have all been typified by good natured joshing and chuckling at Dallaglio's one-eyed commentary, and obviously the rivalry with Saints is equally good natured. It's just that incident really soured my view of the team. Stupid I know, and whilst I'm aware of it, it is difficult to shake.

Of course, now we have defeated Saints this season, I will passionately loathe not beating Sarries, if such an unfortunate eventuality materialises. My actual view of rivalries being "who we are playing next must lose!".