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Re: LEICESTER TIGERS 2021/22 SQUAD/TRANSFERS/CONTRACTS: Steve Borthwick and the Chamber of Oval Park

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Rugbygramps wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 8:29 pm
OakhamTiger32 wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 8:21 pm
Old Hob wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 10:48 am

Yah, I mean, hi dude, like what's with this "row" jive, man? I mean, it's not like it's the first time I've seen it but, well, um, you know "The" row? I thought there were two.
This made me chuckle! :smt005

Not a fan of the term either.. second row works just fine for me but each to their own..
Each to their own of course. Front row you can be either prop or hooker, back row flanker or 8(number 8 if preferred) play second row, you play in the row. Just my understanding of course
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Re: LEICESTER TIGERS 2021/22 SQUAD/TRANSFERS/CONTRACTS: Steve Borthwick and the Chamber of Oval Park

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In days gone by the second row was the second row and the guy now called number eight was lock, not exactly sure when that changed, I think it just sort of evolved. Referring to the Row is a fairly recent thing, like " outside backs " and " back three " and everyone wanting an enforcer in the team whilst knowing that if he did any enforcing he would be yellow or red carded. Strange game rugby but I love it.
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Back in the 1970's second rows were also called locks, never heard a number 8 referred to as a lock though.
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Re: LEICESTER TIGERS 2021/22 SQUAD/TRANSFERS/CONTRACTS: Steve Borthwick and the Chamber of Oval Park

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RagingBull wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 12:35 pmRiveting
That's another way of holding a scrum together.
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Re: LEICESTER TIGERS 2021/22 SQUAD/TRANSFERS/CONTRACTS: Steve Borthwick and the Chamber of Oval Park

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Wayne Richardson Fan Club wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 12:39 pm
RagingBull wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 12:35 pmRiveting
That's another way of holding a scrum together.
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Re: LEICESTER TIGERS 2021/22 SQUAD/TRANSFERS/CONTRACTS: Steve Borthwick and the Chamber of Oval Park

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johnthegriff wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 12:13 pm In days gone by the second row was the second row and the guy now called number eight was lock, not exactly sure when that changed, I think it just sort of evolved. Referring to the Row is a fairly recent thing, like " outside backs " and " back three " and everyone wanting an enforcer in the team whilst knowing that if he did any enforcing he would be yellow or red carded. Strange game rugby but I love it.
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Everyone knows that to be successful you need an enforcer in the second row, at least 2 massive Pacific Islanders who can also run 100m in under 11 seconds, 6 international tightheads in the squad, 3 playmakers on the pitch at any given time and Sam Harrison. Did I miss anything?
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Re: LEICESTER TIGERS 2021/22 SQUAD/TRANSFERS/CONTRACTS: Steve Borthwick and the Chamber of Oval Park

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Tiglon wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 1:00 pm
johnthegriff wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 12:13 pm In days gone by the second row was the second row and the guy now called number eight was lock, not exactly sure when that changed, I think it just sort of evolved. Referring to the Row is a fairly recent thing, like " outside backs " and " back three " and everyone wanting an enforcer in the team whilst knowing that if he did any enforcing he would be yellow or red carded. Strange game rugby but I love it.
:smt044

Everyone knows that to be successful you need an enforcer in the second row, at least 2 massive Pacific Islanders who can also run 100m in under 11 seconds, 6 international tightheads in the squad, 3 playmakers on the pitch at any given time and Sam Harrison. Did I miss anything?
An out and out number 7 and a fullback who can kick penalties from inside his own half
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Tiglon wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 1:00 pm
johnthegriff wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 12:13 pm In days gone by the second row was the second row and the guy now called number eight was lock, not exactly sure when that changed, I think it just sort of evolved. Referring to the Row is a fairly recent thing, like " outside backs " and " back three " and everyone wanting an enforcer in the team whilst knowing that if he did any enforcing he would be yellow or red carded. Strange game rugby but I love it.
:smt044

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TigerFeetSteve wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 1:03 pm
Tiglon wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 1:00 pm
johnthegriff wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 12:13 pm In days gone by the second row was the second row and the guy now called number eight was lock, not exactly sure when that changed, I think it just sort of evolved. Referring to the Row is a fairly recent thing, like " outside backs " and " back three " and everyone wanting an enforcer in the team whilst knowing that if he did any enforcing he would be yellow or red carded. Strange game rugby but I love it.
:smt044

Everyone knows that to be successful you need an enforcer in the second row, at least 2 massive Pacific Islanders who can also run 100m in under 11 seconds, 6 international tightheads in the squad, 3 playmakers on the pitch at any given time and Sam Harrison. Did I miss anything?
An out and out number 7 and a fullback who can kick penalties from inside his own half
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And, according to Ben Kay, players who, when they get to the line, "don't panic".
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Old Hob wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 1:10 pm And, according to Ben Kay, players who, when they get to the line, "don't panic".
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Re: LEICESTER TIGERS 2021/22 SQUAD/TRANSFERS/CONTRACTS: Steve Borthwick and the Chamber of Oval Park

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https://youtu.be/26ktS_YhWIg

Not sure it's been posted on here, but this gives a good insight into the player we're signing
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Quite interesting though that (for me) the best BR of all time Kaino,McCaw,Read had a 6 at 6,a 7 at 7 and an 8 at 8. Balance ay 😂
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Re: LEICESTER TIGERS 2021/22 SQUAD/TRANSFERS/CONTRACTS: Steve Borthwick and the Chamber of Oval Park

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TigerFeetSteve wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 1:47 pm https://youtu.be/26ktS_YhWIg

Not sure it's been posted on here, but this gives a good insight into the player we're signing
Must have been gutted to miss his last kick in Cov last night. Always been a pain to play against, looking forward to seeing him in our shirt.
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