ABClub wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 4:55 pm
Watson is world class but even factoring in Watson's injuries and Kobus tearing it up with the Canes before signing we won't get Watson for what Kobus is on. That said I hope Watson signs.
I wouldn't rule it out, just look at the Bristol issues with offloading players and cap reductions.
Bath are in a position where they need their expensive players to be value for money. With a reducing cap can they afford much cap space on a guy who's barely played. It may be a vast reduction of salary they're offering.
Let's then look at his options, he may be able to go abroad and earn a fair bit, but let's say he is more focused on getting back in the England squad, to do that it means playing in England. However he can't be marquee anywhere else so other club have to fit him in their cap, how many clubs would be willing to pay too much for him based on injury, plus England losses, not many, most have cuts to make and a lot have relatively speaking cheaper options who they may prefer.
Kobus though was signed as a top try scoring winger to replace Veainu at short notice (we know he was signed at short notice as he discussed it, so I sort of assume Nadolo signed as May's replacement, Murimurivalu as Holmes, then we payed a premium to get Kobus to replace Veainu at short notice.
Not saying Watson may not be a cost increase vs Van Wyk, but wouldn’t think they're miles apart in cost.
In the main I agree. I'd have thought van Wyk would have plenty of offers for decent money, probably not Watson levels of money but the gap between the two not a large distance apart when you consider the market for an England international winger with a long term injury won't be great in the current circumstances.
Watson has bare played this season with just 2 games for Bath. He managed 12 last season in a Lions year (11 for Lions and England), 12 the year before (along with 11 for England), season before that just 3 due to another injury but the season before that 16 games for Bath and 14 the season before that.
Outside the two nasty injuries he's wracked up an alright number of games alongside his international appearances.
A proper fitness coach, and top quality nutritional supplements, USA GMP based facilities, not manufactured to food standards as are all EU/UK ''vitamins'' make an incredible difference to players internals. and recovery. As witnessed in a top Premiership fooball team resurgance.
Very interesting! If available, Holmes would be available all season long.
Snap him up I’d say.. perfect player to rotate with Steward for the 15 jersey and if Watson comes in too I’d say we are well set. Still need a replacement for Ellis but otherwise I’d say it’s shaping up nicely
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Very interesting! If available, Holmes would be available all season long.
Snap him up I’d say.. perfect player to rotate with Steward for the 15 jersey and if Watson comes in too I’d say we are well set. Still need a replacement for Ellis but otherwise I’d say it’s shaping up nicely
Not convinced we would need both, all depends on who is leaving. After Van Wyk departure, if we were too loose Nadolo and Murimurivalu as well, then yes please. You can’t replace Nadolo like for like but Holmes brings pace and power a plenty
Pellsey wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:22 pm
Assuming his former Tigers' form returns, I would prefer Holmes to Watson, as we actually would see him more and he would be on a lower wage...
Me too and, whilst not without his own injury issues, I feel he is a lower injury risk than Watson
Pellsey wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:22 pm
Assuming his former Tigers' form returns, I would prefer Holmes to Watson, as we actually would see him more and he would be on a lower wage...
Should’ve read the whole thread first,got excited. Wholeheartedly agree!
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Pellsey wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:22 pm
Assuming his former Tigers' form returns, I would prefer Holmes to Watson, as we actually would see him more and he would be on a lower wage...
Should’ve read the whole thread first,got excited. Wholeheartedly agree!
Imagine if we got both…solve any problem they had on the pitch.