Farrell vs Scotland
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Farrell vs Scotland
(I think I know the answer going from previous threads on here but here goes anyway...)
IMO, we wouldn't have lost against Scotland with Farrell at 12. Farrell would also have led the backline both in defense and attack more in terms of positioning. He would have been a second distributor at 12 to help go wide when it was on, and Slade would have kept his space and line better at 13 than Daly (IMO).
Am I the only one who thought England missed him on Saturday?
IMO, we wouldn't have lost against Scotland with Farrell at 12. Farrell would also have led the backline both in defense and attack more in terms of positioning. He would have been a second distributor at 12 to help go wide when it was on, and Slade would have kept his space and line better at 13 than Daly (IMO).
Am I the only one who thought England missed him on Saturday?
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I would have no problem with him at 12, providing every ball doesn't have to go through him! Unarguable as a very good defender and distributive kicker (washes mouth with soap ).
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yep, you are the only one. What was missed was keeping a winning team on the park.Cardiff Tig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 1:05 pm (I think I know the answer going from previous threads on here but here goes anyway...)
IMO, we wouldn't have lost against Scotland with Farrell at 12. Farrell would also have led the backline both in defense and attack more in terms of positioning. He would have been a second distributor at 12 to help go wide when it was on, and Slade would have kept his space and line better at 13 than Daly (IMO).
Am I the only one who thought England missed him on Saturday?
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Probably right, the backs were a mess all game. The pack did alright and enough for the team to win. First choice partnership in Jones’ mind is Farrell/Manu. After that it’s Manu/Slade. With both options not available we simply didn’t score points with all our possession and territory.
Slade/Daly just didn’t work. Daly has hardly played all year. Should’ve gone Slade/Marchant with Malins and Nowell on the wings.
Slade/Daly just didn’t work. Daly has hardly played all year. Should’ve gone Slade/Marchant with Malins and Nowell on the wings.
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Agree with Nowell. Had to suffer an apoplectic Posh Richard and Father combination when he (Norwell, not Posh Richard.) came on as a sub with about 30s to play.
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Spot on! I picked exactly that backline in the week leading upLeicestertinytiger wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 1:40 pm Probably right, the backs were a mess all game. The pack did alright and enough for the team to win. First choice partnership in Jones’ mind is Farrell/Manu. After that it’s Manu/Slade. With both options not available we simply didn’t score points with all our possession and territory.
Slade/Daly just didn’t work. Daly has hardly played all year. Should’ve gone Slade/Marchant with Malins and Nowell on the wings.
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How many games did we lose last 6N with Farrell at 10 or 12? Let's not start rewriting history here!
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Remind me what position we were last 6N? Is history telling me we were 1st with Farrell at 12?
Slade kicked away any overlaps that were developing.
Slade kicked away any overlaps that were developing.
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The problem wasn't the lack of Farrell, the problem was the lack of players on the pitch for the full 80 minutes.
Agree that too much Daly was also a contributing factor as well though.
Agree that too much Daly was also a contributing factor as well though.
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I think England would have won if they'd had Farrell in the 23. Especially if accompanied by Lawes, Launchbury, Kruis, Manu, May, Barbeary and Underhill.
I'm fairly neutral on Farrell. I'd have him in the squad, 100%. Probably in most 23's. Definitely not starting every single match.
England being rubbish in the 6N last season with Farrell at 12 doesn't mean he's rubbish at 12. England finishing 2nd in the RWC 2019 with Farrell at 12 doesn't make Farrell the 2nd best inside centre in the world. It really isn't that simple.
In 2000, England lost to Scotland by twice the margin, with Johnny Wilkinson at 10. Surprisingly, that didn't mean that Johnny Wilkinson was rubbish at 10...
I'm fairly neutral on Farrell. I'd have him in the squad, 100%. Probably in most 23's. Definitely not starting every single match.
England being rubbish in the 6N last season with Farrell at 12 doesn't mean he's rubbish at 12. England finishing 2nd in the RWC 2019 with Farrell at 12 doesn't make Farrell the 2nd best inside centre in the world. It really isn't that simple.
In 2000, England lost to Scotland by twice the margin, with Johnny Wilkinson at 10. Surprisingly, that didn't mean that Johnny Wilkinson was rubbish at 10...
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maybe with andy farrell in charge instead of eddie !!!
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Genuine question, apart from Manu, does England have an international class 12?
Slade is a 13. Lawrence I haven’t seen enough of, Atkinson I don’t think is. Lozowski and Hendrickson are the best I can think of. Thoughts please?
Slade is a 13. Lawrence I haven’t seen enough of, Atkinson I don’t think is. Lozowski and Hendrickson are the best I can think of. Thoughts please?
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Now though?No6_Flanker wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 1:50 amKelly or Ojomoh in a year or two.