Premiership Final

[JP14]

Joe Marchant was on another planet, my Man of the Match.

However the Quins’ victory was pivotal on the scrummaging prowess of two proper props in Marler and Louw (the power in his finish was immense too).

I used to rate Jonny Hill, and as someone who can play on the edges as part of a 1-3-3-1 or a potential 2-3-3 formation I can see the reasoning behind his selection in the Lions but he’s such a penalty machine and has actually stagnated in my opinion since winning his first international cap.

[Ian Cant]

Just watched the recording of the final.Fantastic final and thrilled for Quins. I hope Steve Borthwick, who is doing a great job takes note of how Quins didn’t take any key players off: Mahler immense, Dombrant, Danny Care, Lynagh,Marchent, all kept on despite playing such a long semi-final.
To be honest, very well reffed too.
Quins might have finished fourth but that’s the system.
Pure joy to watch Quins all season in the Premiership and they had a few very good players out injured today.
Pace, powerful front row and sheer belief. Brilliant.
Maulers interview: wow. He and Genge what a pair!

[Scott1]

Just finished first half,Quins yellow warning ,another penalty,Chiefs score Carley sends Smith to the bin. Chiefs yellow warning ,another penalty,Dombramdt scores no Chiefs player goes to the bin

[kk20gb30]

Fantastic finale to what has been in many respects a season of comebacks and surprises.
Well done Harlequins , an interesting scenario awaits their new DoR - who ever he may be...

[sam16111986]

Fantastic finale to what has been in many respects a season of comebacks and surprises.
Well done Harlequins , an interesting scenario awaits their new DoR - who ever he may be...

But a) why would you appoint one when the team in situ has just done that and b) who would take that job knowing that if you try to change anything there will be a massive backlash from the Quins died in the wool lot and you'll probably lose you job. They'd have to hire somebody who wants to play the exact Quins way but I can't see how that benefits them.

[kk20gb30]

Fantastic finale to what has been in many respects a season of comebacks and surprises.
Well done Harlequins , an interesting scenario awaits their new DoR - who ever he may be...

But a) why would you appoint one when the team in situ has just done that and b) who would take that job knowing that if you try to change anything there will be a massive backlash from the Quins died in the wool lot and you'll probably lose you job. They'd have to hire somebody who wants to play the exact Quins way but I can't see how that benefits them.

Exactly .....
Yet apparently one is definitely incoming .As said , an interesting scenario awaits....

[Dokie]

Fantastic finale to what has been in many respects a season of comebacks and surprises.
Well done Harlequins , an interesting scenario awaits their new DoR - who ever he may be...

But a) why would you appoint one when the team in situ has just done that and b) who would take that job knowing that if you try to change anything there will be a massive backlash from the Quins died in the wool lot and you'll probably lose you job. They'd have to hire somebody who wants to play the exact Quins way but I can't see how that benefits them.

100% agree. It makes no sense to change anything.

[Dokie]

Just finished first half,Quins yellow warning ,another penalty,Chiefs score Carley sends Smith to the bin. Chiefs yellow warning ,another penalty,Dombramdt scores no Chiefs player goes to the bin

I wondered why as well!

[Tigers86asw]

Quins such a curious case. Clearly Gustard was a problem for a lot of the players and yet they are a team run ex players in Jones and Evans. Some of a recruitment has been excellent. Remind me a bit of Wasps last year although Quins probably have a better chance of long term success. They play great rugby but it was their set piece that really impressed me yesterday. They will struggle without Smith in the Autumn I suspect.

[BengalTiger]

Just finished first half,Quins yellow warning ,another penalty,Chiefs score Carley sends Smith to the bin. Chiefs yellow warning ,another penalty,Dombramdt scores no Chiefs player goes to the bin

That caught my eye, I am OK with sending a player to the bin even though a try is scored but the refs have to have a level of consistency if it is going to work, Quins were disadvantaged for scoring soon after the arm goes out I suppose.

Overall a good game by Carley IMHO

[sam16111986]

Just finished first half,Quins yellow warning ,another penalty,Chiefs score Carley sends Smith to the bin. Chiefs yellow warning ,another penalty,Dombramdt scores no Chiefs player goes to the bin

That caught my eye, I am OK with sending a player to the bin even though a try is scored but the refs have to have a level of consistency if it is going to work, Quins were disadvantaged for scoring soon after the arm goes out I suppose.

Overall a good game by Carley IMHO

I think at the time he said it was a scrum infringement rather than an individual penalty and there wasn't a warning at scrum time. This would at least be consistent with the way Tempest reffed the Bristol game even if we don't agree.

[Scott1]

Just finished first half,Quins yellow warning ,another penalty,Chiefs score Carley sends Smith to the bin. Chiefs yellow warning ,another penalty,Dombramdt scores no Chiefs player goes to the bin

That caught my eye, I am OK with sending a player to the bin even though a try is scored but the refs have to have a level of consistency if it is going to work, Quins were disadvantaged for scoring soon after the arm goes out I suppose.

Overall a good game by Carley IMHO

I think at the time he said it was a scrum infringement rather than an individual penalty and there wasn't a warning at scrum time. This would at least be consistent with the way Tempest reffed the Bristol game even if we don't agree.

Yes but he gave them the same warning as he gave Quins,I’m sure he even mentioned his Quins warning at the time to the Chiefs players.

[sam16111986]

That caught my eye, I am OK with sending a player to the bin even though a try is scored but the refs have to have a level of consistency if it is going to work, Quins were disadvantaged for scoring soon after the arm goes out I suppose.

Overall a good game by Carley IMHO

I think at the time he said it was a scrum infringement rather than an individual penalty and there wasn't a warning at scrum time. This would at least be consistent with the way Tempest reffed the Bristol game even if we don't agree.

Yes but he gave them the same warning as he gave Quins,I’m sure he even mentioned his Quins warning at the time to the Chiefs players.

Yes but he clearly doesn't consider scrum penalties to be the same as the offside penalties that lead to the team warning whereas Smith was half a mile offside and cynically so. Certainly if I was Dombrandt I'd have been asking the question. It was the same in the Tigers/Bristol game where the Bristol team warning didn't apply to scrum time and they were allowed to infringe multiple times at the scrum before a yellow was brandished.

[JayC2]

Cracking game and a great advert for rugby.

Didn't think Quins could do it, but they had some monster players out there.

Dombrandt & Marler were magnificent and the whole backline was stellar...

Surely EJ has to give Smith a run in the team - with some decent attacking centres though!

But that would then come down to choosing Smith or Farrell - I think I know how that would turn out <sigh>

[Scott1]

I think at the time he said it was a scrum infringement rather than an individual penalty and there wasn't a warning at scrum time. This would at least be consistent with the way Tempest reffed the Bristol game even if we don't agree.

Yes but he gave them the same warning as he gave Quins,I’m sure he even mentioned his Quins warning at the time to the Chiefs players.

Yes but he clearly doesn't consider scrum penalties to be the same as the offside penalties that lead to the team warning whereas Smith was half a mile offside and cynically so. Certainly if I was Dombrandt I'd have been asking the question. It was the same in the Tigers/Bristol game where the Bristol team warning didn't apply to scrum time and they were allowed to infringe multiple times at the scrum before a yellow was brandished.

Crazy isn’t it! Penalties are penalties imo and a warning is a warning. No consistency at all