LEICESTER TIGERS 2020/21 SQUAD/TRANSFERS/CONTRACT THREAD EPISODE VI: The Return of the Burns

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Re: LEICESTER TIGERS 2020/21 SQUAD/TRANSFERS/CONTRACT THREAD EPISODE VI: The Return of the Burns

Post by RagingBull » Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:30 am

kpj tiger wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:15 pm
RagingBull wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:46 am
Every team Franco Smith has coached has had imo a very dangerous attack despite limited budgets.
Italy's attack has looked at its best under his reign, do they play in the same way his Cheetahs side did?
Very much so.

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Re: LEICESTER TIGERS 2020/21 SQUAD/TRANSFERS/CONTRACT THREAD EPISODE VI: The Return of the Burns

Post by Tiglon » Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:45 am

Sounds like an astute signing. Yes international HC to club Attack/Backs Coach is in theory a step down, but there's approximately zero chance of him achieving anything at Italy - how does it enhance his career to lead a team to 5 defeats once every year plus a few other meaningless matches? On the other hand, Tigers look like they are really building something and SB looks destined to have a huge future - definitely a setup you would want to be a part of.

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Re: LEICESTER TIGERS 2020/21 SQUAD/TRANSFERS/CONTRACT THREAD EPISODE VI: The Return of the Burns

Post by Darc Tiger » Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:24 pm

Perhaps the South African connection we've developed may play a part in him taking the role.

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Re: LEICESTER TIGERS 2020/21 SQUAD/TRANSFERS/CONTRACT THREAD EPISODE VI: The Return of the Burns

Post by RagingBull » Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:47 pm

It doesn't sound a done deal just we have put a offer on the table.
If true though I guess answers the question about looking at coaches still.

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Post by Dangerous4 » Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:39 pm

Could very well be an astute addition if the deal does go through.

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Re: LEICESTER TIGERS 2020/21 SQUAD/TRANSFERS/CONTRACT THREAD EPISODE VI: The Return of the Burns

Post by RagingBull » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:18 am

A Tigers U25 team currently

1. Whitcombe (20)
2. Dolly (21)
3. Heyes (21)
4. Henderson (21)
5. Martin (19)
6. Liebenberg (25)
7. Reffell (21)
8. Wiese (25)
9. JVP (19)
10. McPhillips (24)
11. Potter (23)
12. Kelly (19)
13. Porter (24)
14. Simmons (23)
15. Steward (20)

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Re: LEICESTER TIGERS 2020/21 SQUAD/TRANSFERS/CONTRACT THREAD EPISODE VI: The Return of the Burns

Post by Robespierre » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:29 am

RagingBull wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:05 am
Franco Smith has gotten a offer from Tigers according to Italian media.

Guy Noves replacing him with Italy
From what I've read, Novès was approached for the Italian job, but has said no.
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Re: LEICESTER TIGERS 2020/21 SQUAD/TRANSFERS/CONTRACT THREAD EPISODE VI: The Return of the Burns

Post by FrontRowUnionMember » Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:00 am

RagingBull wrote:
Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:18 am
A Tigers U25 team currently

1. Whitcombe (20)
2. Dolly (21)
3. Heyes (21)
4. Henderson (21)
5. Martin (19)
6. Liebenberg (25)
7. Reffell (21)
8. Wiese (25)
9. JVP (19)
10. McPhillips (24)
11. Potter (23)
12. Kelly (19)
13. Porter (24)
14. Simmons (23)
15. Steward (20)
Makes for interesting reading when you can add a bench too
16. Kerr (24)
17. Dimen (22)
18. Hurd (21)
19. Chessum (20)
20. Lewis (22)
21. White (22)
22. Worth (24)
23. Olowofela (22)

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Re: LEICESTER TIGERS 2020/21 SQUAD/TRANSFERS/CONTRACT THREAD EPISODE VI: The Return of the Burns

Post by RagingBull » Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:45 am

For me though I don’t see us having many of that bench next season though

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Post by TigerFeetSteve » Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:09 am

RagingBull wrote:
Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:45 am
For me though I don’t see us having many of that bench next season though
Who do we reckon is leaving?

I currently have it split roughly like this:

Definitely leaving:
De Bruin
Lavannini

Likely leaving
Bower
Diaz Bonilla
Coghlan
Kerr
Marfo
Williams (loan)
Worth

50/50 leaving
Taute
Olowafela
Aspland-Robinson
Lewis

Maybe leaving
Dimen
Smith T
Wallace
White
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Post by Leicestertinytiger » Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:13 am

Hope Taute and Wallace stay, both experienced players who will be great to have in the squad. White has a big future in a Tigers shirt, already improved under Wigglesworth. Him and JVP are the future at 9.

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Re: LEICESTER TIGERS 2020/21 SQUAD/TRANSFERS/CONTRACT THREAD EPISODE VI: The Return of the Burns

Post by RagingBull » Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:16 am

I would move Dimen to 50/50

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Post by TigerFeetSteve » Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:10 pm

Leicestertinytiger wrote:
Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:13 am
Hope Taute and Wallace stay, both experienced players who will be great to have in the squad. White has a big future in a Tigers shirt, already improved under Wigglesworth. Him and JVP are the future at 9.
Agree re keeping all 3 I'd like them to stay

White I think is wanting more gametime, but given how the likes of Wigglesworth have helped him develop, I think he's likely to stay, especially if Wigglesworth is winding down the amount he plays.

Wallace I think would like a bit more gametime, but he's got stiff competition. He is playing it's all a question of is it as much as he wants, if not will he play more elsewhere, I don't think he would particularly, so reckon we'll be keeping him.

Taute, again with how Porter and Kelly especially have progressed I think he's further down the pecking order than he expected. Will he be happy possibly captain of the Prem cup side and the odd apperance? I think he's a tossup atm.
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Re: LEICESTER TIGERS 2020/21 SQUAD/TRANSFERS/CONTRACT THREAD EPISODE VI: The Return of the Burns

Post by ourla » Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:48 pm

There was a lot of talk of that with the financial implications of Covid and reducing cap squads would be smaller with more players that can play multiple positions. To that end our squad (taking into account all the loanies) seems on the large side so I would think we'll need to lose some players beyond that already confirmed, even assumed.

Anyone prepared to hazard a guess what squad size clubs will have for next season on average? And how many we have on the books currently?
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Post by Tigers86asw » Mon Apr 12, 2021 3:07 pm

ourla wrote:
Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:48 pm
There was a lot of talk of that with the financial implications of Covid and reducing cap squads would be smaller with more players that can play multiple positions. To that end our squad (taking into account all the loanies) seems on the large side so I would think we'll need to lose some players beyond that already confirmed, even assumed.

Anyone prepared to hazard a guess what squad size clubs will have for next season on average? And how many we have on the books currently?
Good question. Suppose it is whether players are classed as Development or Senior. Note this year we have played 45 players but at least

Genge Van Wyk Cole Heyes Leatigaga Hurd Whitcombe
Montoya Youngs Clare Dolly
Wells Green Snyman Martin Henderson
Leibenberg Brink Weise Reffel Chessum Wallace Smith Van Staden
Youngs Wigg White Van Portfvliet
Ford Burns Henry McPhillips
Scott Kelly Moroni Porter Taute
Nadolo Murimurivalu Potter Van Wyk Steward Simmons

That is 42 which is very large for all those to be Senior. Suspect many will still be classed as development players but leaves us with a lot leaving...

Worth
Olowafella
Williams
Lewis
Kerr
Bonilla
Coghlan
Bower
Aspland Robinson

Sure I’ve missed someone but Borthwick has plenty of choice now.

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