Sort the tackle area out, please!

[TigerCam]

Bring back rucking and ban hands in there, ban lifting in the lineout as well if we are talking player safety.

Exactly!

[Wayne Richardson Fan Club]

https://youtu.be/CreJDCJWnJs

Watch the first angle. Francis tackled VDF,ill use that term loosely,then Tips jumped up off the floor to attempt the turnover with Francis purposefully falling on the wrong side to try and block the incoming clear out. Chiefs tactics 101!

Doesn't stop it being a red card though, if AWJ had done it you would of imploded.

[TigerFeetSteve]

https://youtu.be/CreJDCJWnJs

Watch the first angle. Francis tackled VDF,ill use that term loosely,then Tips jumped up off the floor to attempt the turnover with Francis purposefully falling on the wrong side to try and block the incoming clear out. Chiefs tactics 101!

Doesn't stop it being a red card though, if AWJ had done it you would of imploded.

If he didn't perform the illegal clearout and Wales had turned over the ball there probably would have been a penalty to Ireland, as it was pretty obvious he was in the way...

[Old Hob]

Bring back rucking and ban hands in there, ban lifting in the lineout as well if we are talking player safety.

Exactly!

Agree. Can only play the ball with the feet when standing and bound - on the floor is out of the game. Keep protection for the 9

[DingDong]

Bring back rucking and ban hands in there, ban lifting in the lineout as well if we are talking player safety.

Bring back rucking for player safety! - an oxymoron if ever i've heard one. The only reason lineouts are unsafe is because refs don't enforce the 1m channel rule, that space should not be occupied by either side until the ball is bought to ground. Another reason to start applying laws and not ignoring them.

[BFG]

https://youtu.be/CreJDCJWnJs

Watch the first angle. Francis tackled VDF,ill use that term loosely,then Tips jumped up off the floor to attempt the turnover with Francis purposefully falling on the wrong side to try and block the incoming clear out. Chiefs tactics 101!

Wales have been doing it for a while now.
It's a bit sad because they used to be half decent at rugby but now their best chance is watching their opponents play some rugby.

[Scott1]

https://youtu.be/CreJDCJWnJs

Watch the first angle. Francis tackled VDF,ill use that term loosely,then Tips jumped up off the floor to attempt the turnover with Francis purposefully falling on the wrong side to try and block the incoming clear out. Chiefs tactics 101!

Wales have been doing it for a while now.
It's a bit sad because they used to be half decent at rugby but now their best chance is watching their opponents play some rugby.

I did enjoy Tips performance though,he is an outstanding player!

[BFG]

https://youtu.be/CreJDCJWnJs

Watch the first angle. Francis tackled VDF,ill use that term loosely,then Tips jumped up off the floor to attempt the turnover with Francis purposefully falling on the wrong side to try and block the incoming clear out. Chiefs tactics 101!

Wales have been doing it for a while now.
It's a bit sad because they used to be half decent at rugby but now their best chance is watching their opponents play some rugby.

I did enjoy Tips performance though,he is an outstanding player!

Yes he is a good player.
A shame the old guard are clinging on around him.

[tigerburnie]

Bring back rucking and ban hands in there, ban lifting in the lineout as well if we are talking player safety.

Bring back rucking for player safety! - an oxymoron if ever i've heard one. The only reason lineouts are unsafe is because refs don't enforce the 1m channel rule, that space should not be occupied by either side until the ball is bought to ground. Another reason to start applying laws and not ignoring them.

Might as well do away with the lineout if you aren't allowed to compete. The reason people dislike scrums these days is because they are no longer a competition anymore, might as well do away with those and just have 13 blokes running around to create more space............oh hang on, someone's done that already.
No one laid around in a ruck long enough to have their safety compromised, you either got out or shot out

[TigerCam]

Bring back rucking and ban hands in there, ban lifting in the lineout as well if we are talking player safety.

Bring back rucking for player safety! - an oxymoron if ever i've heard one. The only reason lineouts are unsafe is because refs don't enforce the 1m channel rule, that space should not be occupied by either side until the ball is bought to ground. Another reason to start applying laws and not ignoring them.

Might as well do away with the lineout if you aren't allowed to compete. The reason people dislike scrums these days is because they are no longer a competition anymore, might as well do away with those and just have 13 blokes running around to create more space............oh hang on, someone's done that already.
No one laid around in a ruck long enough to have their safety compromised, you either got out or shot out

+1 Exactly. You just never stayed there. Seal off at your peril!

[Cardiff Tig]

Bring back rucking and ban hands in there, ban lifting in the lineout as well if we are talking player safety.

Bring back rucking for player safety! - an oxymoron if ever i've heard one. The only reason lineouts are unsafe is because refs don't enforce the 1m channel rule, that space should not be occupied by either side until the ball is bought to ground. Another reason to start applying laws and not ignoring them.

Rucking wasn't dangerous - how many injuries actually occurred from normal rucking? I'm not sure I remember any (I'm sure there were a few though). It was only dangerous because of foul play which doesn't exist these days to anywhere near the same extent because of the TMO and a massive increase in footage available.

[ourla]

Forgive me, I only played a bit of schoolboy rugby and only watched a bit in the old days. When people talk about bringing back "rucking" I believe they mean players running their studs down the back/front of an opponent lying on the wrong side of the ruck. Is that correct?

[TigerFeetSteve]

Forgive me, I only played a bit of schoolboy rugby and only watched a bit in the old days. When people talk about bringing back "rucking" I believe they mean players running their studs down the back/front of an opponent lying on the wrong side of the ruck. Is that correct?

Correct, it had to be a "raking" motion (picture using your studs to roll the ball/player backwards, so foot front to back) to try and pull then out of the way not a downwards stamp. Therefore essentially trying to assist them in what they're "supposed" to be doing in rolling out of the way.

[ourla]

Forgive me, I only played a bit of schoolboy rugby and only watched a bit in the old days. When people talk about bringing back "rucking" I believe they mean players running their studs down the back/front of an opponent lying on the wrong side of the ruck. Is that correct?

Correct, it had to be a "raking" motion (picture using your studs to roll the ball/player backwards, so foot front to back) to try and pull then out of the way not a downwards stamp. Therefore essentially trying to assist them in what they're "supposed" to be doing in rolling out of the way.

Thanks. I guess that raking differentiates it from stamping which was always illegal?

Still, I fail to see how that doesn't result in injury, all be it mostly superficial such as scratching and bruising.

A moot point I feel as I can't see any circumstance it will be allowed again.

[TigerFeetSteve]

Forgive me, I only played a bit of schoolboy rugby and only watched a bit in the old days. When people talk about bringing back "rucking" I believe they mean players running their studs down the back/front of an opponent lying on the wrong side of the ruck. Is that correct?

Correct, it had to be a "raking" motion (picture using your studs to roll the ball/player backwards, so foot front to back) to try and pull then out of the way not a downwards stamp. Therefore essentially trying to assist them in what they're "supposed" to be doing in rolling out of the way.

Thanks. I guess that raking differentiates it from stamping which was always illegal?

Still, I fail to see how that doesn't result in injury, all be it mostly superficial such as scratching and bruising.

A moot point I feel as I can't see any circumstance it will be allowed again.

Yes, I even as a fullback used to have red lines on my back (and I only played a few years with rucking allowed), but proper rucking wasn't dangerous, taking hits was the dangerous thing.

Tbh in professional rugby where you can watch on via a TMO if it's a stamp etc it would be fine to reintroduce. Problem would be lower levels where there is no TMO stamps were quite common as a bloke standing up can often see the ref and judge if he can get away with a stamp, saw a player have to go off after a stamp to the kidneys once which was followed by a mass brawl.

That's why it won't get reintroduced as you can't allow it at professional level but ban it at lower levels.