RagingBull wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:10 pm
Rennie was already signed to Glasgow before Cockers was given the heave ho
We wouldn't have gotten Robertson anyway.
Doesn't mean we shouldn't of tried, especially with Rennie, Robertson had a bit of a sulk so....Hansen & Henry had time coaching abroad.
I'd imagine Robertson has had several clubs offer him contracts by now and all for more money than he's on in NZ. I think he's holding out for an international job, especially with him offering to help coach the Lions. He's helped coach the Baabaas before now as well.
He might well fancy the Wales job if Pivac doesn't make it to Christmas though probably with a clause that allows him to leave for the ABs at any point.
How good would it have been if we'd managed to hold on to Matera - just the type of leadership I believe we've been missing for
a pretty long time, and what a player too.
cpwhelan wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:47 pm
How good would it have been if we'd managed to hold on to Matera - just the type of leadership I believe we've been missing for
a pretty long time, and what a player too.
Chris I think we have a pretty good back row now, do we need him, yes a couple of years ago but now?
Let’s not get carried away here,Matera for me is the best 6 in the world and walks into almost every team. I’d bite your hand off for him! But either way I’m super excited about the potential of both our back rows
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cpwhelan wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:47 pm
How good would it have been if we'd managed to hold on to Matera - just the type of leadership I believe we've been missing for
a pretty long time, and what a player too.
The story here is Cockers when asked why he had not re-signed Matera he told the open supporters forum that Matera was not initially willing to renew his Tigers contract. That changed after Matera sustained a serious shoulder injury playing for Argentina against the All Blacks, Matera's agent told Cockers that Matera now wanted to sign a new contract but Cockers said under the circumstances he was not going to accept. The rest is history.
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The injury may have been the reason we didn't resign him, however we seemed reluctant to play him before his injury. Was that part of Cocker's disinclination to play youngsters?
I don't recall our back row of that era being rammed with star players.
Amazing what some people will blame the club for, Matera joined us as a 20 year old injury replacement for Tom Croft, his contract was extended to the end of the season and he was offered a further deal which he declined as at that time if he had ambitions to play international rugby he needed to be playing in Argentina, it was slightly different for established Argentinian players already based in Europe such as Ayerza although in Marcos's case the demands on his body playing in two Hemispheres with little break between seasons possibly ended his career prematurely.
Vunibaka signed by Bob Dwyer about 25 years ago was never able to secure a U.K work permit so hardly the fault of our Boardroom, more the regulations of the time and possibly Dwyer for not checking facts before bringing the player over.