LEICESTER TIGERS 2020/21 SQUAD/TRANSFERS/CONTRACT THREAD EPISODE IV: A New Hope

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Re: LEICESTER TIGERS 2020/21 SQUAD/TRANSFERS/CONTRACT THREAD EPISODE IV: A New Hope

Post by wormus »

Louis wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 5:09 pm Where's Wigglesworth going to play?

Behind Youngs?

Behind Youngs and White?

Behind Youngs and White and Simmons?

I'm happy we're signing a good player, but I think we have, if not an embarrassment of riches at 9, at least a decent showing. Sure he could cover when Youngs is with England, but can't White or Simmons? Bring the younger players on a bit. I'm not sure this is where I'd place my money, but then I am not a Director of Rugby or Head Coach at a world leading rugby club.
Or Behind Youngs and White and Jack Van Poortvliet? I think he will be a great coach and mentor to our 9's as well as a player. Coming from Sarries he will undoubtedly have a few tricks up his sleeves! :smt002
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Wigglesworth is a very good signing, played plenty of games and comes with great game management. White is a great player but still has much to learn and partnered with Henry they maybe lack some experience. Will also aid White and JVP’s development no doubt.

Hope the Luan de Bruin rumours are also true. Could still also do with either a 13 or left winger, hopefully we’ll have some news next week.
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Re: LEICESTER TIGERS 2020/21 SQUAD/TRANSFERS/CONTRACT THREAD EPISODE IV: A New Hope

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wormus wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 5:29 pm
Louis wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 5:09 pm Where's Wigglesworth going to play?

Behind Youngs?

Behind Youngs and White?

Behind Youngs and White and Simmons?

I'm happy we're signing a good player, but I think we have, if not an embarrassment of riches at 9, at least a decent showing. Sure he could cover when Youngs is with England, but can't White or Simmons? Bring the younger players on a bit. I'm not sure this is where I'd place my money, but then I am not a Director of Rugby or Head Coach at a world leading rugby club.
Or Behind Youngs and White and Jack Van Poortvliet? I think he will be a great coach and mentor to our 9's as well as a player. Coming from Sarries he will undoubtedly have a few tricks up his sleeves! :smt002
If nothing else, an excellent eye for a real estate deal...

(Good points all!)
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I hve no issue with Wigglesworth being at Saracens, he did not force them to pay everyone too much, loyalty to an employer who treats you well is also good. His age is older but we have young scrum halves who need some guidance, for that he's perfect.

Also when there's England duty he's the perfect off the bench player to stabilise a game if needed.

Age profile he's the perfect age to transition to a player coach so no issues on that front.

Baa baa's here is my only issue with th guy and it's not even an issue for a ban (as his worth is as much on the field as it is training ground imparting wisdom) I am much more concerned about the fact we're bringing in a player who is going to be a senior leader and where he sits within the Tiger's values.

That said given he's signed on the dotted line I am willing to wipe the slate clean and give him a new start with us just that he really needs to prove he's whiter than white. I'll forgive but not forget...
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What happens if he gets a ban though for his Baabaas misdemeanour?
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I worry where we are heading, I don't want us to become a Saracens clone type team, I would rather us never get back to the top than resort to their methods on & off the pitch.
This could be the thin end of the wedge.
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Wayne Richardson Fan Club wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:27 pm I worry where we are heading, I don't want us to become a Saracens clone type team, I would rather us never get back to the top than resort to their methods on & off the pitch.
This could be the thin end of the wedge.
Just because we sign one ex sarries player you are worried we will become a clone
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ay2oh wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:30 pm
Wayne Richardson Fan Club wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:27 pm I worry where we are heading, I don't want us to become a Saracens clone type team, I would rather us never get back to the top than resort to their methods on & off the pitch.
This could be the thin end of the wedge.
Just because we sign one ex sarries player you are worried we will become a clone
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Wayne Richardson Fan Club wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:27 pm I worry where we are heading, I don't want us to become a Saracens clone type team, I would rather us never get back to the top than resort to their methods on & off the pitch.
This could be the thin end of the wedge.
If cloning their methods on the pitch means winning I will happily take it
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Borthwick has signed him because Wigglesworth is a winner. We have lots of talented players, but how many of them know how to win things? How many of them, deep down, really expect to win things?

It's someone else who thinks the same way Borthwick does, who has the same attitude and perspective. It's another person pushing Borthwick's culture. It's one more person who will be angry about every defeat, every failure, rather than shrugging his shoulders and having a laugh like we have so many times of recent years. It's not about what he brings on the pitch (although that might be very useful this season) but what he brings to the environment.

Borthwick's job isn't just to come in and tweak the tactics, kick a bit less here, a bit more there, fix the lineout. He is here to completely overhaul the environment and culture. Wigglesworth will help him do that.
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Post by dunc »

There will be times we need experienced heads to manage and control games. Without Youngs and Ford we are lacking this at half back
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Have taken Williams and Bower off the squad list
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RagingBull wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:57 pm Have taken Williams and Bower off the squad list
Has Bower been released?
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longlivethecrumbie wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 2:05 pm
RagingBull wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:57 pm Have taken Williams and Bower off the squad list
Has Bower been released?
They are both in the squad page still, interestingly they've changed all the photo's from last seasons kit to the new training kit which indicates they are both staying this season too
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kpj tiger wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 2:10 pm
longlivethecrumbie wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 2:05 pm
RagingBull wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:57 pm Have taken Williams and Bower off the squad list
Has Bower been released?
They are both in the squad page still, interestingly they've changed all the photo's from last seasons kit to the new training kit which indicates they are both staying this season too
Interesting. Thanks for the insight
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