England v Ireland
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Bit of a curates egg from Young’s certainly not great in some areas but 2 try scoring passes and a great ball to Manu for England’s first try.
Doesn’t take much to get the Lenny haters going
Doesn’t take much to get the Lenny haters going
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Quite possibly one of the worse SH international performances Ive ever seen,the things he's done well are really just run of the mill 9 stuff,nothing spectacular. Hopefully he plays himself into form
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I suppose what some of the Meerkats on here forget is that due to a season ending injury Young’s has played very little rugby of late.
Still no reason not to sharpen the knives
Still no reason not to sharpen the knives
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Has Nigel got that right? I thought it was only from restarts?
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I think a lot of people have forgotten that Ben has barely played since early April.
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Add a few Irish to that!Darc Tiger wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2019 5:23 pm I think a lot of people have forgotten that Ben has barely played since early April.
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Tough to play at that tempo as well, puts a lot of pressure in the 9s passing game. England's forwards left him a little exposed at times, again if you're going to play at that high a tempo. Hopefully with a bit more pre RWC prep he'll come through.Darc Tiger wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2019 5:23 pm I think a lot of people have forgotten that Ben has barely played since early April.
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I didn’t see the game live and have just watched it. Today showed why Manu should play 13, not 12 as he has done a few times for England. He’s so much more effective in that 13 channel. I never understood why England tried him at 12.
I think today’s starting backline should be the one that will be the main one for the World Cup.
I think today’s starting backline should be the one that will be the main one for the World Cup.
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Daly's last ditch tackling is very poor. If Watson stays fit I can see him taking the 15 shirt with Daly's flexibility getting him a bench spot.
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That is the tempo that England need to play at.sam16111986 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:02 pmTough to play at that tempo as well, puts a lot of pressure in the 9s passing game. England's forwards left him a little exposed at times, again if you're going to play at that high a tempo. Hopefully with a bit more pre RWC prep he'll come through.Darc Tiger wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2019 5:23 pm I think a lot of people have forgotten that Ben has barely played since early April.
It's Sarries tempo.
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I think England will do well as long as the Saracens players stay fit, they are the spine of the side, the changes I would make from yesterday's side would be Vinipola to come in at prop, Heinz at scrum half as I think Youngs had a poor game yesterday, I don't think he is the best scrum in England at this time and Watson at fullback.
If we can keep playing as we did yesterday we could do well in the World Cup.
If we can keep playing as we did yesterday we could do well in the World Cup.
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Sarries rarely play at that tempo for a length of time though, it's part of their brilliance. They slow the game down and then speed it up to suit themselves and their game plan. Exeter try and play this tempo but don't play this expansively they play a lot narrower with their forwards.BFG wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2019 11:35 pmThat is the tempo that England need to play at.sam16111986 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:02 pmTough to play at that tempo as well, puts a lot of pressure in the 9s passing game. England's forwards left him a little exposed at times, again if you're going to play at that high a tempo. Hopefully with a bit more pre RWC prep he'll come through.Darc Tiger wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2019 5:23 pm I think a lot of people have forgotten that Ben has barely played since early April.
It's Sarries tempo.
The interplay with the forwards and the two playmakers in the back line was exceptional. Too much for Ireland to deal with, especially having only had the one hit out against Italy.
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Cokanasiga not very dynamic?! Were you watching a different game? He had a poor game in Cardiff defensively but his potential is huge and dynamic he certainly is!!Leicestertinytiger wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2019 4:13 pm Good shift from the Tigers boys, especially Manu, great turnover just now and beast ball in hand. All except Youngs, passing hasn’t been to the man, kicking too far.
Do like Cokanasiga, but isn’t very dynamic at this level. For me Nowell or Watson on the right wing.
England have picked Ireland apart both at the breakdown and lineout time. Daly offers so much in attack from the back too.
I would have a fit Nowell at 15 in my best team with May and Daly on the wings, it would be difficult to choose between Joe and Watson for the bench spot though! Watson is also a better 15 than Daly, certainly in the air and tackling. Daly has missed two one on one tackles these past three weeks.
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Ben Youngs? Having only seen the highlights I can't really comment, but in the paper today
"One of his best, and not even the paucity of the oposition could devalue it 8/10"
And this from one of his usual critics. Ah well, the joys of subjective comments.
"One of his best, and not even the paucity of the oposition could devalue it 8/10"
And this from one of his usual critics. Ah well, the joys of subjective comments.
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Yeah he has huge potential but dynamic he isn’t. He’s a big guy with pace, nothing else. Doesn’t have a kicking game, doesn’t have a chase game and positionally is poor. Against the good teams he’ll get targeted with them punting the ball behind him. Obviously he’s a young guy with massive potential to improve and no doubt in a few years he’ll be a starting winger, just not yet.Soggypitch wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2019 9:56 amCokanasiga not very dynamic?! Were you watching a different game? He had a poor game in Cardiff defensively but his potential is huge and dynamic he certainly is!!Leicestertinytiger wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2019 4:13 pm Good shift from the Tigers boys, especially Manu, great turnover just now and beast ball in hand. All except Youngs, passing hasn’t been to the man, kicking too far.
Do like Cokanasiga, but isn’t very dynamic at this level. For me Nowell or Watson on the right wing.
England have picked Ireland apart both at the breakdown and lineout time. Daly offers so much in attack from the back too.
I would have a fit Nowell at 15 in my best team with May and Daly on the wings, it would be difficult to choose between Joe and Watson for the bench spot though! Watson is also a better 15 than Daly, certainly in the air and tackling. Daly has missed two one on one tackles these past three weeks.
Daly is a weird one. Awful in defence all year, misses tackles one on one and never secure under the high ball. But how many tries has he made with his pace and handling in the wide channels. Has a good kicking game too so can see why Jones is sticking with him.