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Re: Howard to mentor Murphy

Post by Grimlish » Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:41 am

This world - happens all the time.

Most CEOs welcome the chance to talk confidentially outside the accountability line and to gain independent perspectives. It’s often a requirement of a CEO’s personal development plan (yes, they have those too). The day you stop learning and challenging yourself....

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Re: Howard to mentor Murphy

Post by strawclearer » Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:51 am

G.K wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:19 am
strawclearer wrote:
Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:03 pm
Maybe I'm biased having mentored more than a few business people in my time but...

A young player gets coached - everyone happy.

A young coach gets mentored - people up in arms.

I've mentored CEOs, MDs etc, all of whom were happy to admit they benefited from an independent guide, confidant and counsellor. Nothing unusual here, guys!
The point, which you've obviously missed, is that GM is the head coach not a junior or assistant coach. In what world does the boss get mentored?
I couldn't put it better than this:
Grimlish wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:41 am
This world - happens all the time.

Most CEOs welcome the chance to talk confidentially outside the accountability line and to gain independent perspectives. It’s often a requirement of a CEO’s personal development plan (yes, they have those too). The day you stop learning and challenging yourself....
I'd add that a mentor can often help control emotions and stop people making wild assumptions. Had you thought of being mentored yourself?
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Re: Howard to mentor Murphy

Post by G.K » Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:55 am

What emotions have I lost control of and what wild assumptions have I made?

And you think I need mentoring? :smt043
Nowadays referees decide matches, players by how much.

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Re: Howard to mentor Murphy

Post by strawclearer » Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:19 am

G.K wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:55 am
What emotions have I lost control of and what wild assumptions have I made?

And you think I need mentoring? :smt043
"The point, which you've obviously missed..."

You 'play the man not the ball' (emotion) and you 'assume' I've missed the fact that Smurf is Head Coach. Subtle, nuanced observations but - that's what mentors spot! :smt003
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Re: Howard to mentor Murphy

Post by G.K » Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:52 am

Seems you are now more straw clutching than straw clearing :smt002 We'll leave it there (for now) I don't have time to discuss nuanced semantics today.
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Re: Howard to mentor Murphy

Post by fleabane » Sun Jun 30, 2019 12:16 pm

Strawclearer, some people are not yet ready (which I’m sure you know)!
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Re: Howard to mentor Murphy

Post by Dangerous4 » Sun Jun 30, 2019 1:58 pm

Question. Why appoint a head coach who needs mentoring? Totally barmy imo. :smt017 :smt017

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Re: Howard to mentor Murphy

Post by BFG » Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:00 pm

Dangerous4 wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2019 1:58 pm
Question. Why appoint a head coach who needs mentoring? Totally barmy imo. :smt017 :smt017
The answer is probably in the Google definition of mentor!

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Re: Howard to mentor Murphy

Post by RichieB » Sun Jun 30, 2019 4:35 pm

I don't get it - why are some happy to complain about the club, the coaches, the players and everything else about the club? I've already read one poster saying he is taking his t.v. subscription elsewhere because he isn't happy with the club trying to make changes in an effort to improve.

Give Murphy and the new regime a chance, or just go find another club to criticise!

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Re: Howard to mentor Murphy

Post by Tigerbeat » Sun Jun 30, 2019 4:47 pm

Pat Howard has made some recommendations for change and the board want to make sure they are implemented. The term to mentor Murphy may be to help with the implementation of these changes and support Murphy in his development.
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Re: Howard to mentor Murphy

Post by BFG » Sun Jun 30, 2019 4:52 pm

RichieB wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2019 4:35 pm
I don't get it - why are some happy to complain about the club, the coaches, the players and everything else about the club? I've already read one poster saying he is taking his t.v. subscription elsewhere because he isn't happy with the club trying to make changes in an effort to improve.

Give Murphy and the new regime a chance, or just go find another club to criticise!
I really wish folk would read topics through properly before being judgemental!
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Re: Howard to mentor Murphy

Post by BigChris » Sun Jun 30, 2019 7:47 pm

Dangerous4 wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2019 1:58 pm
Question. Why appoint a head coach who needs mentoring? Totally barmy imo. :smt017 :smt017
Incredibly short-sighted.
Taking a longer term view that a head coach will continue to develop and improve, with a old-head alongside to support that development, is a model that works elsewhere - so why not in rugby?

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Re: Howard to mentor Murphy

Post by Big Dai » Sun Jun 30, 2019 8:23 pm

Well said that man........
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Re: Howard to mentor Murphy

Post by sapajo » Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:19 pm

BigChris wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2019 7:47 pm
Dangerous4 wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2019 1:58 pm
Question. Why appoint a head coach who needs mentoring? Totally barmy imo. :smt017 :smt017
Incredibly short-sighted.
Agreed it was incredibly short-sighted to appoint a totally inexperienced head coach.
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Re: Howard to mentor Murphy

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