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Challenge Cup 19/20

Post by Scott1 » Wed May 29, 2019 2:02 pm

Wasps, Leicester Tigers, Worcester Warriors and London Irish will join Bristol in the Challenge Cup next season from the Gallagher Premiership.

Also competing in the Challenge Cup this year are: Stade Francais, Bordeaux Begles, Toulon, Pau, Agen, Castres, Grenoble, Bayonne, Cardiff Blues, Scarlets, Edinburgh, Dragons, Zebre, Calvisano, Enisei.
Draw 19 June.

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Re: Challeng Cup 19/20

Post by Scott1 » Wed May 29, 2019 2:04 pm

God I shed a tear when I look at those group of teams!

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Re: Challenge Cup 19/20

Post by Scott1 » Wed May 29, 2019 2:19 pm

Will update as soon as I see seedings but I assume we will be in a very tough group finishing 11th.

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Re: Challenge Cup 19/20

Post by JP14 » Wed May 29, 2019 3:05 pm

We’re likely to be Tier 3 although Tier 2 is a slight possibility.

Pools are decided by one team of each tier in 5 pools.
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Re: Challenge Cup 19/20

Post by JP14 » Wed May 29, 2019 3:16 pm

Because of the format, the remainder of the two Tier 2 spots need to be allocated by draw therefore not all the Tier 2 spots have been confirmed.
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Re: Challenge Cup 19/20

Post by Scott1 » Wed May 29, 2019 3:21 pm

Why 2 then mate,won't we be 4th or 5th if we finished 11th

Edit: getting mixed up between my ranks and tiers. We will be ranked 4th,LI 5th so most likely we will be both be in Tier 3.

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Re: Challeng Cup 19/20

Post by PGD » Wed May 29, 2019 3:42 pm

Scott1 wrote:
Wed May 29, 2019 2:04 pm
God I shed a tear when I look at those group of teams!
As in "how are the mighty fallen?", or the perceived 'lower class' of some compared to Tigers' former standing (I've not phrased that well). Well, it'll make a change from seemingly playing Ulster, Munster, Leinster, Racing & Ospreys every season - & losing.

Mind you, there are some there who'll give us a run for our money & if we approach the competition with an arrogant air that it's below us, I suggest well be heading for an almighty fall ourselves.

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Re: Challenge Cup 19/20

Post by Scott1 » Wed May 29, 2019 3:45 pm

How far we have fallen mate,I don't like to look down on other teams. We need to sort it out and get a little bit of luck in the draw or theres a good chance we could be going out of the group stages here! Murphy has somehow improved on MoC failures it's possible we could go go backwards further still.

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Re: Challenge Cup 19/20

Post by JP14 » Wed May 29, 2019 3:52 pm

Yes the teams are tough but in my view the worse possible pool for us would be something like Agen, Castres, Edinburgh because I’m sure each pool is made up from one team from either tiers.
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Re: Challenge Cup 19/20

Post by Scott1 » Wed May 29, 2019 3:57 pm

I'm sure we will definitely get one of the bottom placed Top14/D2 winners,bottom placed PRO14 or one of the Russian/Romanian teams in our group.

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Re: Challeng Cup 19/20

Post by Mark62 » Wed May 29, 2019 4:54 pm

Scott1 wrote:
Wed May 29, 2019 2:04 pm
God I shed a tear when I look at those group of teams!
I don’t understand why really there are 3 or 4 previous European cup winners along with finalists and semi finalists and previous winners of the challenge trophy.

Too me it shows sport goes in circles and it comes round to everyone. We will get there again

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Re: Challenge Cup 19/20

Post by RagingBull » Wed May 29, 2019 5:57 pm

You have
Wasps: 2 European titles,
Stade Francias: 2 European Titles
Toulon: 3 European titles,
Castres: Last years top 14 champions
Edinburgh: Quarter finalists of this years champions cup.
Scarlets: Last years Champions cup semi finalists and Pro 14 finalist last season. (Won the pro 14 2 seasons ago)


Not the only too have fallen.
Also a bit entitled IMO to consider some of those teams as historically beneath us.

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Re: Challenge Cup 19/20

Post by TimwW » Wed May 29, 2019 5:59 pm

Scott1 wrote:
Wed May 29, 2019 2:02 pm
Wasps, Leicester Tigers, Worcester Warriors and London Irish will join Bristol in the Challenge Cup next season from the Gallagher Premiership.

Also competing in the Challenge Cup this year are: Stade Francais, Bordeaux Begles, Toulon, Pau, Agen, Castres, Grenoble, Bayonne, Cardiff Blues, Scarlets, Edinburgh, Dragons, Zebre, Calvisano, Enisei.
Draw 19 June.
Grenoble have a promotion play off with Brive on Sunday

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Re: Challenge Cup 19/20

Post by CitizenSmiff » Wed May 29, 2019 6:38 pm

Some good games to be had there! I'm hoping we get Enisei so I can go on an away day to the Russian Steppes.

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Re: Challenge Cup 19/20

Post by LE18 » Wed May 29, 2019 8:34 pm

CitizenSmiff wrote:
Wed May 29, 2019 6:38 pm
Some good games to be had there! I'm hoping we get Enisei so I can go on an away day to the Russian Steppes.
But how do you get there? if its where Saints played there last year, their supporters went on the team's charter plane! Bet Ryan air/Easy jet don't go there, perhaps Wizz do?

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