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Spencer and White for England

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Will Spencer and Ben White are included in the England XV to play the Barbarians

https://www.englandrugby.com/news/engla ... e0wM1SjjII
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Re: Spencer and White for England

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Congratulations to both. A great learning experience and an honour.
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Re: Spencer and White for England

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Congratulations to both but my God that 23 is gonna get crushed!
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Re: Spencer and White for England

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Scott1 wrote: Mon May 27, 2019 1:31 pm Congratulations to both but my God that 23 is gonna get crushed!
Lets hope they learn more in defeat that they would in victory then.
I'm not cynical just experienced
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Re: Spencer and White for England

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chewbacca wrote: Mon May 27, 2019 2:25 pm
Scott1 wrote: Mon May 27, 2019 1:31 pm Congratulations to both but my God that 23 is gonna get crushed!
Lets hope they learn more in defeat that they would in victory then.
+1 to both.
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Re: Spencer and White for England

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England XV squad

Forwards

Josh Beaumont (Sale Sharks)
Ben Curry (Sale Sharks)
Alex Dombrandt (Harlequins)
Tom Dunn (Bath Rugby)
Tom Ellis (Bath Rugby)
Ross Harrison (Sale Sharks)
Teimana Harrison (Northampton Saints)
Paul Hill (Northampton Saints)
Beno Obano (Bath Rugby)
Ehren Painter (Northampton Saints)
Will Spencer (Leicester Tigers)
Elliott Stooke (Bath Rugby)
Tommy Taylor (Wasps)

Backs

Josh Bassett (Wasps)
Simon Hammersley (Newcastle Falcons)
Ben Loader (London Irish)
Joe Marchant (Harlequins)
Alex Mitchell (Northampton Saints)
Piers O’Conor (Bristol Bears)
Callum Sheedy (Bristol Bears)
Marcus Smith (Harlequins)
Ben White (Leicester Tigers)
Johnny Williams (Newcastle Falcons)

Obano, Taylor, Hill
Stoke, Spencer
Dombrandt, Beaumont, Curry
White, Smith
Williams, Marchant
Bassett, Hanmersley, Loader

But raw in areas if that's the 15 but some good combinations. White and Smith played with the under 20s in the JWC last year and Williams and Marchant were the centres a couple of years back when Mallinder Jnr played 10.
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Re: Spencer and White for England

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I'm afraid I agree with Dean Ryan that the RFU does a thousand things and none of them well.
That squad is so poor in areas and some of it isn't even English.
Some have represented Wales and Ireland and now call themselves Englishmen.
Even White sounds like he has been on the Irn Bru.
The Barabarians have Englishman Mark Atkinson included! :smt005
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BFG wrote: Mon May 27, 2019 4:27 pm I'm afraid I agree with Dean Ryan that the RFU does a thousand things and none of them well.
That squad is so poor in areas and some of it isn't even English.
Some have represented Wales and Ireland and now call themselves Englishmen.
Even White sounds like he has been on the Irn Bru.
The Barabarians have Englishman Mark Atkinson included! :smt005
There's a few Scots and Welshies that changed nationality having played for England at age grade. I'd have thought we could have found a better homegrown flyhalf than Sheedy though.
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Re: Spencer and White for England

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BFG wrote: Mon May 27, 2019 4:27 pm I'm afraid I agree with Dean Ryan that the RFU does a thousand things and none of them well.
That squad is so poor in areas and some of it isn't even English.
Some have represented Wales and Ireland and now call themselves Englishmen.
Even White sounds like he has been on the Irn Bru.
The Barabarians have Englishman Mark Atkinson included! :smt005
Marker and Cipriani too I’ve read
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Re: Spencer and White for England

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Not a single Gloucester player?
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Re: Spencer and White for England

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JP14 wrote: Mon May 27, 2019 5:05 pm Not a single Gloucester player?
Because they’re all South African
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Re: Spencer and White for England

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Barbarians squad

Forwards

Joe Marler (Harlequins & England)

Pierre Schoeman (Edinburgh)

John Afoa (Bristol Bears & New Zealand)

Finlay Bealham (Connacht & Ireland)

David Heffernan (Connacht & Ireland)

Richard Hibbard (Dragons & Wales)

James Horwill (Harlequins & Australia)

Chris Vui (Bristol Bears & Samoa)

Steven Luatua (Bristol Bears & New Zealand)

Facundo Isa (Toulon & Argentina)

Liam Messam (Toulon & New Zealand)

Viliame Mata (Edinburgh & Fiji)

Francois Louw (Bath & South Africa)

Backs

Rhys Webb (Toulon & Wales)

Rhodri Williams (Dragons & Wales)

Colin Slade (Pau & New Zealand)

Brock James (Bordeaux Begles)

Mark Atkinson (Gloucester)

Malakai Fekitoa (Toulon & New Zealand)

Filipo Nakosi (Toulon)

Taqele Naiyaravoro (Northampton Saints & Australia)

Niyi Adeolokun (Connacht & Ireland)

Charles Piutau (Bristol Bears & New Zealand)
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Re: Spencer and White for England

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BFG wrote: Mon May 27, 2019 4:27 pm I'm afraid I agree with Dean Ryan that the RFU does a thousand things and none of them well.
That squad is so poor in areas and some of it isn't even English.
Some have represented Wales and Ireland and now call themselves Englishmen.
Even White sounds like he has been on the Irn Bru.
The Barabarians have Englishman Mark Atkinson included! :smt005
Apart from Sheedy who are you referring to?
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Re: Spencer and White for England

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SthrnTiger wrote: Mon May 27, 2019 5:44 pm
BFG wrote: Mon May 27, 2019 4:27 pm I'm afraid I agree with Dean Ryan that the RFU does a thousand things and none of them well.
That squad is so poor in areas and some of it isn't even English.
Some have represented Wales and Ireland and now call themselves Englishmen.
Even White sounds like he has been on the Irn Bru.
The Barabarians have Englishman Mark Atkinson included! :smt005
Apart from Sheedy who are you referring to?
Piers O'Connor played Ireland age grade. He was born in Sydney but brought up in Sussex. Came through the academy at Wasps I think.
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Re: Spencer and White for England

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SthrnTiger wrote: Mon May 27, 2019 5:44 pm
BFG wrote: Mon May 27, 2019 4:27 pm I'm afraid I agree with Dean Ryan that the RFU does a thousand things and none of them well.
That squad is so poor in areas and some of it isn't even English.
Some have represented Wales and Ireland and now call themselves Englishmen.
Even White sounds like he has been on the Irn Bru.
The Barabarians have Englishman Mark Atkinson included! :smt005
Apart from Sheedy who are you referring to?
I wasn't referring to anyone else.
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