Ben Youngs

Forum to discuss everything that is Tigers related

Moderators: Rizzo, Tigerbeat, Tigers Press Office, Tigers Webmaster

LE18
Super User
Super User
Posts: 2802
Joined: Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:13 am
Location: Great Glen

Re: Ben Youngs

Post by LE18 » Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:43 am

One problem I see that Ben has to contend with at Leicester is our poor counter rucking, he so often is caught out trying to fish the ball out and gets knocked backwards by the opposition counter rucking and coming through, so always on the back foot, our guards must make a more solid defensive shield to allow him to get the ball safely.

mol2
Super User
Super User
Posts: 3467
Joined: Wed May 02, 2007 5:48 pm
Location: Cosby

Re: Ben Youngs

Post by mol2 » Sat Mar 16, 2019 8:38 pm

Something to do with a mediocre back row who are too slow to clear the ruck.

Apart from Guy Thompson none of our back rows are really up to it. To be honest our props do more effective work at the breakdown than all bar Thompson and Spencer(who is a lock) although the jury is out on Denton.

JP14
Super User
Super User
Posts: 5982
Joined: Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:37 am
Location: Neverland

Re: Ben Youngs

Post by JP14 » Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:30 am

Well Youngs, apart from one pretty darn good pass to Launchbury, was pretty bad for England too again yesterday.
"Our Greatest Glory Is Not In Never Failing, But In Rising Every Time We Fall" Confucius

DeadlyDunc
Senior Member
Senior Member
Posts: 278
Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2017 12:05 pm

Re: Ben Youngs

Post by DeadlyDunc » Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:08 am

JP14 wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:30 am
Well Youngs, apart from one pretty darn good pass to Launchbury, was pretty bad for England too again yesterday.
Thought he played well as they all did first half and was still ok 2nd

Not sure how you can say he was pretty bad

JP14
Super User
Super User
Posts: 5982
Joined: Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:37 am
Location: Neverland

Re: Ben Youngs

Post by JP14 » Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:56 am

Through an easy intercept pass and then went into Tigers mode.
"Our Greatest Glory Is Not In Never Failing, But In Rising Every Time We Fall" Confucius

Tigerbeat
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 5494
Joined: Mon Oct 01, 2007 9:14 pm
Location: The big wide world

Re: Ben Youngs

Post by Tigerbeat » Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:06 am

JP14 wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:56 am
Through an easy intercept pass and then went into Tigers mode.
Was I watching the same match as you? I thought it was Farrell that threw the pass that was intercepted, had his kick charged down and kicked the back for the tries scored by the Scots. I have just watched the Scottish tries and did not see a Ben Youngs pass intercepted.
SUPPORT THE MATT HAMPSON TRUST
www.matthampson.co.uk

DeadlyDunc
Senior Member
Senior Member
Posts: 278
Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2017 12:05 pm

Re: Ben Youngs

Post by DeadlyDunc » Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:27 am

JP14 wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:56 am
Through an easy intercept pass and then went into Tigers mode.
That’s the game plan though, Young’s and Farrell kick high & chase if the forwards stop making yards. A few kicks were long and he was probably on the field for 10mins longer than he should because he was clearly fatigued but that’s not his fault.

You can argue Farrell should have been aware and started changing the plan and going for territory but I imagine BY would be dropped if he went renegade.

wellstiger
Gold Member
Gold Member
Posts: 755
Joined: Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:56 am

Re: Ben Youngs

Post by wellstiger » Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:41 am

Farrells' defensive work was poor ( if not hitting high -he doesn't tackle well) and was fatigued around 50 min mark.EJ did him and England no favours by not bringing Ford on earlier.

Thought Ben had a pretty good game. Moving ball quick from breakdown and mixing it up with kicking - not over reliant on either. Admitted he looked tired about 60 min

Congrats Ben.......... :smt054

sapajo
Super User
Super User
Posts: 4684
Joined: Sat Oct 15, 2011 7:48 pm

Re: Ben Youngs

Post by sapajo » Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:44 am

Tigerbeat wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:06 am
JP14 wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:56 am
Through an easy intercept pass and then went into Tigers mode.
Was I watching the same match as you? I thought it was Farrell that threw the pass that was intercepted, had his kick charged down and kicked the back for the tries scored by the Scots. I have just watched the Scottish tries and did not see a Ben Youngs pass intercepted.
Ben did throw an intercepted pass that led to a Scottish breakout but the player was brought down quickish and it came to nothing.
Without hope we are nothing, keep the faith, a Tiger for eternity

Ian Cant
Gold Member
Gold Member
Posts: 912
Joined: Sun May 08, 2005 10:51 am

Re: Ben Youngs

Post by Ian Cant » Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:19 pm

I too though Ben Youngs had a good game. The problem with England for over a year now is Eddie Jones’ training method is so physical that the whole match day squad looks shattered by half time. Genge and the whole front row were great first half but then faded rapidly hence Cole’s early introduction.
Just hope our contingent can come back roaring v Saints!

Dangerous4
Gold Member
Gold Member
Posts: 1113
Joined: Thu Nov 08, 2018 5:15 pm
Location: High Wycombe, Bucks.

Re: Ben Youngs

Post by Dangerous4 » Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:42 pm

Ben had a pretty good game for England, but like many others, was exhausted by the 60 minute mark. E.J. should have made a couple of changes at half time in the pack, and the rest after Scotland had scored their third try.

It also showed that Farrell's captaincy is flawed, as well as his game falling apart after half time.

JP14
Super User
Super User
Posts: 5982
Joined: Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:37 am
Location: Neverland

Re: Ben Youngs

Post by JP14 » Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:43 pm

Tigerbeat wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:06 am
JP14 wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:56 am
Through an easy intercept pass and then went into Tigers mode.
Was I watching the same match as you? I thought it was Farrell that threw the pass that was intercepted, had his kick charged down and kicked the back for the tries scored by the Scots. I have just watched the Scottish tries and did not see a Ben Youngs pass intercepted.
Sorry Tigerbeat, should’ve been clearer, Youngs did throw a pass which was easily intercepted but it was not capitalised by the Scots, it was still a bad decision because the defender was in front of him for ages before he passed the ball!
"Our Greatest Glory Is Not In Never Failing, But In Rising Every Time We Fall" Confucius

Scott1
Super User
Super User
Posts: 3557
Joined: Sun Dec 11, 2016 5:03 pm

Re: Ben Youngs

Post by Scott1 » Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:12 pm

Yes,it was worse than Farrells in one way,it wasn't even an interception it was a pass!
Last edited by Scott1 on Mon Mar 18, 2019 5:45 am, edited 1 time in total.

amazing tiger
Bronze Member
Bronze Member
Posts: 381
Joined: Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:51 pm

Re: Ben Youngs

Post by amazing tiger » Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:18 pm

JP14 wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:56 am
Through an easy intercept pass and then went into Tigers mode.
So does one bad pass constitute to a bad game??

JP14
Super User
Super User
Posts: 5982
Joined: Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:37 am
Location: Neverland

Re: Ben Youngs

Post by JP14 » Mon Mar 18, 2019 6:56 am

amazing tiger wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:18 pm
JP14 wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:56 am
Through an easy intercept pass and then went into Tigers mode.
So does one bad pass constitute to a bad game??
It wasn’t just the bad pass, it was the Tigers mode he went into of kicking poor box-kicks giving the ball back to Scotland when we should have been pressuring them in their 22. Pretty sure there were missed tackles too.
"Our Greatest Glory Is Not In Never Failing, But In Rising Every Time We Fall" Confucius

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Old Hob, TigerFeetSteve and 2 guests