LEICESTER TIGERS 2018/19 SQUAD/TRANSFERS/CONTRACT THREAD PART 4

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Re: LEICESTER TIGERS 2018/19 SQUAD/TRANSFERS/CONTRACT THREAD PART 4

Post by ellis9 » Tue Jan 01, 2019 11:31 pm

Scott1 wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 9:16 pm
Are we even linked with anyone???
Our new marquee player is very likely to be a second row or flanker.

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Post by Scott1 » Tue Jan 01, 2019 11:53 pm

Good news! Could we be getting the DP brothers then ,wonder who Sale are after?!

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Post by strawclearer » Wed Jan 02, 2019 12:02 am

Well - RB has added two of them to his 'Rumours In' list!
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Re: LEICESTER TIGERS 2018/19 SQUAD/TRANSFERS/CONTRACT THREAD PART 4

Post by Hot_Charlie » Wed Jan 02, 2019 12:19 am

I sincerely hope that none of the Du Preez brothers arrive as marquee signings.

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Re: LEICESTER TIGERS 2018/19 SQUAD/TRANSFERS/CONTRACT THREAD PART 4

Post by ellis9 » Wed Jan 02, 2019 12:21 am

Hot_Charlie wrote:
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I sincerely hope that none of the Du Preez brothers arrive as marquee signings.
Who are you hoping for the marquee player to be then?

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Re: LEICESTER TIGERS 2018/19 SQUAD/TRANSFERS/CONTRACT THREAD PART 4

Post by Hot_Charlie » Wed Jan 02, 2019 12:40 am

None of them. The marquee needs to be a "big money" player; a player of decent talent (and probably international caps), experience and preferably a household name (in rugby terms) to generate footfall. Jean-Luc maybe (at a push) fits that category, but is still a relatively inexperienced young player with 13 caps. Talented, but maybe lacking in experience and generating excitement (which Toomua arguably brought with him when he arrived at Welford Road matchday - until his knee went 20 minutes later).

With CVC arriving, the marquee might actually be worth pushing the boat out a little further for, just this once. A real big name player.

(But that's for Murphy/Glynn/Cohen to decide, not me :smt002 )

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Post by ellis9 » Wed Jan 02, 2019 1:20 am

Hot_Charlie wrote:
Wed Jan 02, 2019 12:40 am
None of them. The marquee needs to be a "big money" player; a player of decent talent (and probably international caps), experience and preferably a household name (in rugby terms) to generate footfall. Jean-Luc maybe (at a push) fits that category, but is still a relatively inexperienced young player with 13 caps. Talented, but maybe lacking in experience and generating excitement (which Toomua arguably brought with him when he arrived at Welford Road matchday - until his knee went 20 minutes later).

With CVC arriving, the marquee might actually be worth pushing the boat out a little further for, just this once. A real big name player.

(But that's for Murphy/Glynn/Cohen to decide, not me :smt002 )
The money from CVC isn't meant to be used on players though.

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Re: LEICESTER TIGERS 2018/19 SQUAD/TRANSFERS/CONTRACT THREAD PART 4

Post by Scuttle » Wed Jan 02, 2019 8:39 am

Hot_Charlie wrote:
Wed Jan 02, 2019 12:40 am
None of them. The marquee needs to be a "big money" player; a player of decent talent (and probably international caps), experience and preferably a household name (in rugby terms) to generate footfall. Jean-Luc maybe (at a push) fits that category, but is still a relatively inexperienced young player with 13 caps. Talented, but maybe lacking in experience and generating excitement (which Toomua arguably brought with him when he arrived at Welford Road matchday - until his knee went 20 minutes later).

With CVC arriving, the marquee might actually be worth pushing the boat out a little further for, just this once. A real big name player.

(But that's for Murphy/Glynn/Cohen to decide, not me :smt002 )
I see your point but I would prefer a player who will be with us through the season and not be off half the time on international duty; I think continuity will help performance improve. A marquee player will have some attraction but a winning team will be a stronger pull.
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Re: LEICESTER TIGERS 2018/19 SQUAD/TRANSFERS/CONTRACT THREAD PART 4

Post by BIttySmalls » Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:24 am

Traveller wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 10:45 pm
Sorry guys, having read all of this. I realise now how wrong I am. The team is fine, the coaching has just been a tad iffy, the CEO is doing a cracking job. Glynn has cracked the academy. The Board have shown great insight in their recruitment and retention of DORs / Head Coach. The recruitment policy has been methodically planned. I'm just throwing a hissy fit after a poor first half of the season. The rest of the premiership clubs are fighting each other for most of our forwards. And there has been a flood of academy graduates over the last five / six years who have become regulars in the 1st XV - the last one being - Manu Tuilagi. Not a single academy graduate in the last five years has become a regular. In contrast to Exeter, Saracens, Harlequins, Wasps, Sale, Newcastle, Worcester, Newcastle, Bath, Bristol, Northampton - yep that would be everyone else.

It's just that for me if you look at just about any relevant statistic about Tigers over the last five / six years I thought the trend was obvious. I can't think of any CEO (and that is Cohen's title) in any other business who would still be in his job given the performance of 'the product' during his tenure. I thought Glynn was 'Head of Rugby Operations'?
No other posts are necessary from this point. Traveller nails it.

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Re: LEICESTER TIGERS 2018/19 SQUAD/TRANSFERS/CONTRACT THREAD PART 4

Post by JackFlashJonny » Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:36 am

BIttySmalls wrote:
Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:24 am
Traveller wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 10:45 pm
Sorry guys, having read all of this. I realise now how wrong I am. The team is fine, the coaching has just been a tad iffy, the CEO is doing a cracking job. Glynn has cracked the academy. The Board have shown great insight in their recruitment and retention of DORs / Head Coach. The recruitment policy has been methodically planned. I'm just throwing a hissy fit after a poor first half of the season. The rest of the premiership clubs are fighting each other for most of our forwards. And there has been a flood of academy graduates over the last five / six years who have become regulars in the 1st XV - the last one being - Manu Tuilagi. Not a single academy graduate in the last five years has become a regular. In contrast to Exeter, Saracens, Harlequins, Wasps, Sale, Newcastle, Worcester, Newcastle, Bath, Bristol, Northampton - yep that would be everyone else.

It's just that for me if you look at just about any relevant statistic about Tigers over the last five / six years I thought the trend was obvious. I can't think of any CEO (and that is Cohen's title) in any other business who would still be in his job given the performance of 'the product' during his tenure. I thought Glynn was 'Head of Rugby Operations'?
No other posts are necessary from this point. Traveller nails it.

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These are my sentiments entirely, no wonder Cohen et al are all still here when we have people happy to accept such ineptitude :smt012

It is refreshing to see someone on the forum actually a realist instead of a one eyed Tigers fanboy :smt023

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Re: LEICESTER TIGERS 2018/19 SQUAD/TRANSFERS/CONTRACT THREAD PART 4

Post by JP14 » Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:39 am

I would argue Jean-Luc is marquee worthy but only at a push. Good news anyhow that they’re not staying at Sale.
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Re: LEICESTER TIGERS 2018/19 SQUAD/TRANSFERS/CONTRACT THREAD PART 4

Post by JP14 » Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:40 am

Traveller wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 10:47 pm
ay2oh wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 7:46 pm
Disagree. Our front row is the best in the premiership and Denton,Spencer and Thompson are quality. Coaching and game plan is the issue
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Re: LEICESTER TIGERS 2018/19 SQUAD/TRANSFERS/CONTRACT THREAD PART 4

Post by TigerMac3 » Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:55 am

I think Diamonds comments re: the DP brothers have been slightly misquoted / misunderstood. I still expect them to remain at Sale, but won't be included as part of the impending 'collection' of announcements. As contracted to the Sharks (SA, not Salford!) I think they probably have obligations to return to SA.

I could however be talking absolute *******, just my take on it all!

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Re: LEICESTER TIGERS 2018/19 SQUAD/TRANSFERS/CONTRACT THREAD PART 4

Post by Leicestertinytiger » Wed Jan 02, 2019 10:30 am

TRP saying we are still looking to sign Charlie Walker, but for next season and not immediately as any injury dispensation.

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Re: LEICESTER TIGERS 2018/19 SQUAD/TRANSFERS/CONTRACT THREAD PART 4

Post by Scott1 » Wed Jan 02, 2019 10:39 am

Great post,nailed!!

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