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Re: Tigers v Racing

Post by westwinds31 » Sun Dec 16, 2018 4:03 pm

Sadly the “there’s going to be a reaction next week” line has long gone. Defence is woeful. Coach puts defensive system in place and the players have to implement it on the field. 10, 12 and 13 lead the line and we have 2 England internationals and an Australian international who can’t sort it out. It’s either communication or confidence that’s the problem. Not trusting the person inside or outside of you. When you’re shipping 4 tries a game, it’s hard to be confident in your systems. Leadership....again we have a lot of international players on the pitch who have all played in massive games, but can’t kick the ball off the field when required. Penalty count is far too high, I’d leave Cole out...penalty after penalty every game. Stupid.

Ultimately, it comes back to Murphy. Nice guy...yes. Tigers legend...yes. Head coach...no.

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Re: Tigers v Racing

Post by Raimond » Sun Dec 16, 2018 4:07 pm

Genuine question then... it's poor, really poor. Flat. The atmosphere's (understandably) flat, some big stars surrounded by mediocrity (and one or 2 playing worse than the mediocrity), set piece and defending awful, devoid all round of confidence and ideas.

One or two mentioning relegation and that's worrying when we're about to lose all of our 'best' players to the 6 Nations. So the genuine question- does it help or hinder us?? Will it plunge us further or will some fight from the younger lads save us?

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Re: Tigers v Racing

Post by WiggoTiger » Sun Dec 16, 2018 4:07 pm

Getting back to the game, men against clueless boys. Call Ford International class is embarrassing, all he did was pass laterally or kick the ball away.
Relegation beckons sadly IMHO.
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Re: Tigers v Racing

Post by tigerssteve » Sun Dec 16, 2018 4:22 pm

RagingBull wrote:
Sun Dec 16, 2018 3:11 pm
Jimmy Skitz wrote:
Sun Dec 16, 2018 3:04 pm
RagingBull wrote:
Sun Dec 16, 2018 2:56 pm
The club doesn’t need to get rid of all the coaches :censored:

It’s what has caused this problem to begin with.

As Genge said sacking so many coaches and players causes teams to lose that pack mentality.

Tigers need to be patient bring in some senior people who know how rugby players think at put them in at DOR. Let go of the players who are out of contract who are not performing, and work from there.

Another mass clear out will result in just more :censored:.
not all no, the 2 forwards coaches can stay but can you really say GM has done a good job with the backs as "skills coach" we have made so many errors whilst he's been in post its embarrassing, same with defence.

you cannot keep someone just because you want stability if they are not up to the job.

for far too long Tigers has been a professional club run in an amateur manner
How do you know he isn't up to the job?
Not many coaches can be dumped in charge of a team that is losing badly and be expected to turn the ship around immediately.
It's laughable to think otherwise.

All you will do is make a bad atmosphere worse and that will lead to even worse things.

Watching on tv, they were in the dressing room at half-time. Nothing was happening. Nothing! Nothing! How can that be? No team talk, no individual or group chats. No motivation. :censored: all! No players champing at the bit, getting each other going. NOTHING!!!

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Re: Tigers v Racing

Post by WiggoTiger » Sun Dec 16, 2018 4:24 pm

Loyalty to the shirt!!! :smt030 :smt031
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Re: Tigers v Racing

Post by Scott1 » Sun Dec 16, 2018 4:30 pm

If Harrison and Toomua can reignite their partnership we should be alright come 6N time. We did ok last season with those pair,imo if we hadve kept them until seasons end instead of parachuting Young's and Ford back in we would've got 4th but that's old news now.

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Re: Tigers v Racing

Post by Jimmy Skitz » Sun Dec 16, 2018 4:34 pm

Scott1 wrote:
Sun Dec 16, 2018 4:30 pm
If Harrison and Toomua can reignite their partnership we should be alright come 6N time. We did ok last season with those pair,imo if we hadve kept them until seasons end instead of parachuting Young's and Ford back in we would've got 4th but that's old news now.
has Ben White aged out of the U20s? If so he may well have jumped Harrison

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Re: Tigers v Racing

Post by fleabane » Sun Dec 16, 2018 4:42 pm

No captain or leadership on or off the field. Fix that, and you are halfway there. Dai Young (and junior) would be a start after clearing out the coaching staff bar Stanko.
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Re: Tigers v Racing

Post by Jimmy Skitz » Sun Dec 16, 2018 4:44 pm

fleabane wrote:
Sun Dec 16, 2018 4:42 pm
No captain or leadership on or off the field. Fix that, and you are halfway there. Dai Young (and junior) would be a start after clearing out the coaching staff bar Stanko.
Dan Cole as captain too

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Re: Tigers v Racing

Post by fleabane » Sun Dec 16, 2018 4:49 pm

DC as captain is a good call!
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Re: Tigers v Racing

Post by RagingBull » Sun Dec 16, 2018 4:51 pm

Yeh that bemused face he gives when he gives an obvious penalty would look much better with the captain armband so to speak.

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Re: Tigers v Racing

Post by tigerssteve » Sun Dec 16, 2018 4:56 pm

[quote=Raimond post_id=703631 time=1544976425 user_id=11197]
Genuine question then... it's poor, really poor. Flat. The atmosphere's (understandably) flat, some big stars surrounded by mediocrity (and one or 2 playing worse than the mediocrity), set piece and defending awful, devoid all round of confidence and ideas.

One or two mentioning relegation and that's worrying when we're about to lose all of our 'best' players to the 6 Nations. So the genuine question- does it help or hinder us?? Will it plunge us further or will some fight from the younger lads save us?
[/quote]


It reminds me of a headline several, or perhaps even many, years ago. " Tiger cubs show their claws"! Either 6 nations or world cup time obviously but at that time we had Tiger Cubs. Do we now, or do we have pussycats, like some of the so called First 15? That's what they were called in my day, followed by the extras. Other than a couple of exceptions, most of the so called First 15 were a disgrace, either by attitude, discipline or skill level. I don't care what Genge says about fan criticism, I've been a Tiger for 50 years and paid my dues so I have a right to comment. He doesn't have to agree but I'm entitled. I don't have the option of being paid to transfer allegiance to another club. I'll always be a Tiger, but not a pussycat!

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Re: Tigers v Racing

Post by WiggoTiger » Sun Dec 16, 2018 5:00 pm

. I'll always be a Tiger, but not a pussycat!
[/quote]

+1 :smt023
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Re: Tigers v Racing

Post by tigerssteve » Sun Dec 16, 2018 5:02 pm

WiggoTiger wrote:
Sun Dec 16, 2018 4:24 pm
Loyalty to the shirt!!! :smt030 :smt031
What does that mean? Loyalty to the shirt? Fans or players? Tiger since 1968 and also proud. Also a realist.

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Re: Tigers v Racing

Post by VernonAtrium » Sun Dec 16, 2018 5:02 pm

The bigger you are, the harder you fall. We've had this :censored: coming for some time.
'Dusty Hare was / is a farmer as well. Sheep basically as far as I can remember.'

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